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RE: My Parents Strike Again
November 13, 2009 at 7:59 am
(November 13, 2009 at 1:35 am)Ruff-n-TuffAtheistBuff Wrote: I think that you are talking this atheism thing way too seriously. Surely it's just a fad
I didn't mean that in a bad way, but I just think that sometimes people do atheism to look cool
Atheism isn't a fad and nor is it to look good. It's a stance. We truly do not believe that a god or gods exist. That is what it means to be an atheist. You believe in god and I do not. It has nothing to do with looks or fads.
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Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.
Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.
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RE: My Parents Strike Again
November 13, 2009 at 9:44 am
(This post was last modified: November 13, 2009 at 9:46 am by Dotard.)
Grimlin;
Dude, just let it go. Srsly. You're 17, he's the king of that castle, his computer, his rules.
You have a short time before you hit the big 1-8. Get your own place and computer and do as you wish. Until then his stuff, his rules. Simples.
Respect the man's castle. You may not care for the rules but as long as you're there eating up his food, crapping in his water-closet, sucking up his H2O and electricity you must suck up the rules also.
I'm sure you have possessions now that you may let others touch/use but they must handle according to your rules. (Borrow my baseball? Sure, just don't hit it into Old man Jones' yard and bring it back by 8pm.)
Abide by the castle rules put forth by the King.
Oh... and while you're at it, tell him that ya love 'em.
I used to tell a lot of religious jokes. Not any more, I'm a registered sects offender.
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RE: My Parents Strike Again
November 13, 2009 at 9:57 am
Tell him that you love him by all means, but also tell him that it was he and your mother who brought you into this world and it is also he who has a responsibility to prepare you for adult life with all the personal responsibility that that entails.
Tell him that if he wants you to behave like an adult he should treat you like an adult. And if he says he will when you behave like an adult simply tell him it's not you that believes in fairy tales!
After all, you're not just a simple lodger are you that can move out now if you don't like things?
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RE: My Parents Strike Again
November 13, 2009 at 10:23 am
Agreed. You can tell him those things but keep in mind the bottom line.
His castle, his computer, his internets connection, his rules.
There are many rules/laws here in the good ol' USA that I think are stupid and idiotic and ya, I could go and argue with judges and lawmakers working to get it changed, but until then, guess what?
I have to abide by those rules.
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RE: My Parents Strike Again
November 13, 2009 at 10:43 am
(This post was last modified: November 13, 2009 at 10:48 am by Wanderer.)
Just tell him that a righteous god would encourage his followers to seek and obtain as much knowledge as they can, to make an educated decision on the matter.
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RE: My Parents Strike Again
November 13, 2009 at 10:44 am
(November 12, 2009 at 5:41 pm)Tiberius Wrote: Update: My current solution is a proxy on one of my other websites. I blocked atheistforums.org on my laptop, and I can access it through this proxy server:
I was going to suggest that if you have been blocked because parents disagree with your atheism you should consider using the pc forums theme that was setup a while ago. However, it seems to have been removed.
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RE: My Parents Strike Again
November 13, 2009 at 11:38 am
@littlegrimlin1: Have you actually tried to sit down and have a serious father/son conversation regarding your views? I agree with Dotard that you should respect your old man's rules but I also think it's wrong for him to deny you freedom to explore. Maybe a nice chat might be better than going behind his back.
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RE: My Parents Strike Again
November 13, 2009 at 12:05 pm
No, I haven't sat with him and talked yet. Haven't had, "THE" talk. ;\\ lol
I know many ways to get around it being a computer programmer and all.
1) Delete Registry Key
2) Use Proxy (i use learninginvestment.com/a)
3) Plug his ethernet cable to my laptopy.
He has his wireless internet shut off for reasons beyond me. Maybe it's so we won't be on the internet all day, even though I still am on his. lol
I can get on the AF more safely via proxy at school than at home, wouldn't want him taking other crap from me. I have a laptop, but useless without his wireless internet.
I agree, his rules, but his rule was implemented for a very intolerant reason. I left the AF website in the history, hoping if he came across it, he would be a rational person and just let it be.
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RE: My Parents Strike Again
November 13, 2009 at 12:30 pm
(November 13, 2009 at 1:35 am)Ruff-n-TuffAtheistBuff Wrote: I think that you are talking this atheism thing way too seriously. Surely it's just a fad
I didn't mean that in a bad way, but I just think that sometimes people do atheism to look cool
Hmmmm, my fad has lasted 30 years. It would be easier for me to just go to church and play nice, but I just can't buy the bullshit. I guess the older I get the less tolerant I am of people trying to push their beliefs on me.
littlegrimlin1, I think it's unfortunate that your father feels he has to pull this power trip. I think you need to talk with him about your beliefs. He'll either respect them or he wont. And unfortunately if he doesn't want you to come here in his house, it's his rules. My son will be 17 on Monday. He can come here if he wants, but he'd rather chat about yu gi oh, pokemon, yo-yo's and other weird and bazaar shit that he does. I don't block things from him. I tried that with his older brother and quickly learned it doesn't work. At some point a parent just needs to back off
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RE: My Parents Strike Again
November 13, 2009 at 12:30 pm
(November 13, 2009 at 12:05 pm)littlegrimlin1 Wrote: He has his wireless internet shut off for reasons beyond me. Maybe it's so we won't be on the internet all day, even though I still am on his. lol
I can get on the AF more safely via proxy at school than at home, wouldn't want him taking other crap from me. I have a laptop, but useless without his wireless internet.
Is it a WEP encrypted network or WPA?
WEP encryption is easy to crack... Look into BackTrack. It's a usb/cd-bootable linux os with macchanger, aircrack, etc. all pre-installed. I think they've got a tutorial on their site too.
WPA is harder to crack, but still possible. I think you have to bruteforce it though.
But yeah, if you're determined enough, anything can be cracked.
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