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The Bible is the claim, not the evidence

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The Bible is the claim, not the evidence
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RE: The Bible is the claim, not the evidence
February 9, 2014 at 2:11 pm
(December 29, 2013 at 12:57 am)là bạn điên Wrote: What is the difference between faith and gullibility?

Why would you believe something in the total absence of evidence?

That's the whole point of Theism. Believing in something in the total and complete absence of objective evidence. Cuz really, the point of a theistic person's life is not to get freedom from suffering, because that's basically impossible. It's about being all right with the suffering because God loves you. Then ya just go from there.
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RE: The Bible is the claim, not the evidence
February 9, 2014 at 2:23 pm
Objective evidence?? Whats that?
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RE: The Bible is the claim, not the evidence
February 9, 2014 at 3:32 pm
God is the claim and the Bible is the evidence of a revelation from God rather than the evidence for Gods existence.
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RE: The Bible is the claim, not the evidence
February 9, 2014 at 3:37 pm
(February 9, 2014 at 3:32 pm)Sword of Christ Wrote: God is the claim and the Bible is the evidence of a revelation from God rather than the evidence for Gods existence.

Huh? My eyes just crossed.....
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RE: The Bible is the claim, not the evidence
February 9, 2014 at 7:30 pm
(February 9, 2014 at 3:37 pm)truthBtold Wrote: Huh? My eyes just crossed.....

The Jews already believed in God anyway so the Bible wasn't written as evidence for Gods existence, it just revealed what God had to say.
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RE: The Bible is the claim, not the evidence
February 9, 2014 at 7:46 pm
(February 9, 2014 at 7:30 pm)Sword of Christ Wrote:
(February 9, 2014 at 3:37 pm)truthBtold Wrote: Huh? My eyes just crossed.....

The Jews already believed in God anyway so the Bible wasn't written as evidence for Gods existence, it just revealed what God had to say.

Gotcha.... but are u saying that people believe that the jews got it right?
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RE: The Bible is the claim, not the evidence
February 9, 2014 at 7:53 pm
(February 9, 2014 at 7:46 pm)truthBtold Wrote: Gotcha.... but are u saying that people believe that the jews got it right?

The Bible is only for people who believe in God to begin with and contains no arguments or evidence to convince an atheist. Therefore it can't be used as evidence for God it's only evidence for what God has to say if you already believe in God.
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RE: The Bible is the claim, not the evidence
February 9, 2014 at 8:04 pm
(February 9, 2014 at 7:53 pm)Sword of Christ Wrote:
(February 9, 2014 at 7:46 pm)truthBtold Wrote: Gotcha.... but are u saying that people believe that the jews got it right?

The Bible is only for people who believe in God to begin with and contains no arguments or evidence to convince an atheist. Therefore it can't be used as evidence for God it's only evidence for what God has to say if you already believe in God.

Gotcha again.. but I believed in god when I was younger and never really read the bible. Then I finally did read the bible three times over and now I really dont believe theres a god...
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RE: The Bible is the claim, not the evidence
February 9, 2014 at 9:06 pm
(February 9, 2014 at 7:53 pm)Sword of Christ Wrote:
(February 9, 2014 at 7:46 pm)truthBtold Wrote: Gotcha.... but are u saying that people believe that the jews got it right?

The Bible is only for people who believe in God to begin with and contains no arguments or evidence to convince an atheist. Therefore it can't be used as evidence for God it's only evidence for what God has to say if you already believe in God.

And you wonder why we call your bullshit a "cult?"
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RE: The Bible is the claim, not the evidence
February 10, 2014 at 7:14 am
(February 9, 2014 at 8:04 pm)truthBtold Wrote: Gotcha again.. but I believed in god when I was younger and never really read the bible. Then I finally did read the bible three times over and now I really dont believe theres a god...

You just ended up doing three revolutions of the wheel of atheist logic.

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