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Philosophical problems with science.
#31
RE: Philosophical problems with science.
Philosophy... Why won't it just fuck off and die?
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#32
RE: Philosophical problems with science.
Well, the result of people claim it did so is post-modernism, so yeah...
"The reason things will never get better is because people keep electing these rich cocksuckers who don't give a shit about you."
-George Carlin
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RE: Philosophical problems with science.
(December 13, 2013 at 2:22 pm)NoraBrimstone Wrote: Philosophy... Why won't it just fuck off and die?

Where's my damn 'unlike' button?


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Philosophical problems with science.
(December 13, 2013 at 9:39 am)LostLocke Wrote:
(December 12, 2013 at 9:27 pm)I and I Wrote: The interpretation of studies will always be determined by human bias. Scientists concede that very little is known about gravity...
So, you're saying you either know everything about something, or you know nothing about something?
That is obviously and factually false.
(December 12, 2013 at 9:27 pm)I and I Wrote: and yes, to a cave mans mind gravity was non existent. Unless there is evidence that they knew the rate of gravity.
Are you claiming that something doesn't exist until we know it exists?
(December 12, 2013 at 9:27 pm)I and I Wrote: If you are about to claim that claim about gravity is "true" regardless of time period then you are asserting that truth is outside of human perception.
We know what gravity's rate of acceleration is now. (And by the way, that number is fact right now. You obviously have never flown in a plane or else you'd know how that rate is applied to things today)
We know enough about gravity to know how to come up with those rates. That's the reason the Apollo missions and Martian rovers were able to land on the surfaces and not crash down, or float away.
So yes, we can say that Earth's gravity was, for all purposes, the same in cave man days as it is today.
You think it was different, then explain how and why it was different, and what the rate was back then.

Now it's your turn.
Answer one of my original simple yes or no questions.
Is the rate of gravity different for people of different backgrounds?
Yes or no.

Did cavemen know about gravity? Yes or no.

Nobody is saying that gravity doesn't exist for me and you and nobody is saying that modern humans can't understand gravity and make a logical judgement and state that it existed according to us in the past.

Are you claiming that human bias doesn't affect:

1. Interpretation of results.
2. Interpretation of what questions to ask
3, interpretation of what answers to expect in accordance with number 2.

Are you saying science is not subject to those biases? Yes or no.

And yes something can't be said to exist until we know it exists........hence I am an atheist.


(Kids This is where science is about to get full religious woo woo). The belief in an absolute truth (absolute meaning beyond human perception) is where science and religion meet In a motel 6 and get it on til the break of dawn.
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