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Can an Atheist know anything?
#61
RE: Can an Atheist know anything?
Allah means the one and only god, as opposed to polytheistic gods. Which is why in some languages, the bible wants to use the word Allah for the christian god and then they get threats from muslims. I think nowadays muslims tend to say Allah instead of god just because it gives them something to differentiate from other religions and it's also an identity perhaps, that's just speculation on my part.

Not that I care to interact with 19 (she will not reply anyway because I pointed out she was dishonest in our first exchange), just giving some background which I don't think would be provided by her.

So does the verse mean to worship the muslim god or to worship any god?
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#62
RE: Can an Atheist know anything?
(December 27, 2013 at 1:36 pm)Jacob(smooth) Wrote: Now isn't that interesting. Your translation of that verse is very different to the one I found. Why is that? Are some of the translations more reliable than others. You must admit that :-
Quote:You may also fight them to eliminate oppression, and to worship GOD freely
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is very different from
Quote:"And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah

Both means the same , you could find that if you would research . There is a conjunction between the phrases (fight them to eliminate oppression "and" to worship GOD freely) .

The word used here to describe "and" conjuction is "و" . Its not a simple "and" as like in English . It means "due to" or "thus" or "thereby" .

So Allah describes persecution and oppression as an obstance for his religion . He say fight until they have run out of this attitude and so the religion/system will be only for Allah/God .

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#63
RE: Can an Atheist know anything?
That's interesting, because to me, fight until religion is for allah means just that. I wonder if thats the error that islamic terrorists fall into.

Is allah and god used interchangeably in the Qua-ran then?
"Peace is a lie, there is only passion.
Through passion, I gain strength.
Through strength, I gain power.
Through power, I gain victory.
Through victory, my chains are broken."
Sith code
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#64
RE: Can an Atheist know anything?
(December 23, 2013 at 12:01 am)orangebox21 Wrote: Given that atheists don't believe in absolute truth.

Over-generalizing, at the least.

(December 23, 2013 at 12:01 am)orangebox21 Wrote: Without absolute truth no one can discern a lie.

A nonsensical assertion.

(December 23, 2013 at 12:01 am)orangebox21 Wrote: Knowing something requires discerning truth from lies.

Arguably less wrong than anything else in your post.

(December 23, 2013 at 12:01 am)orangebox21 Wrote: Atheists can't know anything.

Discuss.

When your premises are garbage, your conclusions are likely to also be garbage. When you got to your conclusion, you should have asked yourself if it is true that no atheist in the world knows a single thing. You could have asked an atheist about some things you know that an atheist might also know if atheists are capable of knowing anything. Then, when you realized your conclusion wasn't true, you should have kept your mouth shut until you had something intelligent and/or entertaining to say.

(December 27, 2013 at 6:03 am)Nineteen Wrote: Put much more simply , atheism is a belief as like other belief types . This is a prrof for their selfishness , they impose their beliefs and strongly opposes other beliefs , they do everything to destroy other beliefs if they have the opportunity .

I'm sensing your butt hurts deeply, Nineteen. That doesn't mean you need to show it to everyone.

(December 27, 2013 at 12:55 pm)Nineteen Wrote: Do you really believe in what you say ? Islam is not a company and muslims are not its salaried-contractual personnels . So in this case I can blame all the atheists because of some atheists ? Now I'm sure personal interests will be engaged and you will say just the opposite for yourself .

Yes, we've certainly noticed you blame all atheists because of some atheists, but thanks for spelling it out.
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#65
RE: Can an Atheist know anything?
(December 23, 2013 at 12:01 am)orangebox21 Wrote: Given that atheists don't believe in absolute truth.
Without absolute truth no one can discern a lie.
Knowing something requires discerning truth from lies.
Atheists can't know anything.

Discuss.

Clutching at straws.

We are on to you.
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