Neo Paganism

[kılıç_mehmet]

fine im leaving for awhile but if you want to know why we got so easily side tracked its because wicca has no strong religious or philosophical basis

You got easily side-tracked. I didn't.

Being as I know Wiccans, I would argue it doesn't suffer against other religions - it simply doesn't have as many old men jerking off about it.

And yes, you probably should go - you're really only making yourself look worse and worse.

Wicca...lacks true roots which I look for in a religion.
Other than that, I do actually appreciate reconstruction movements, like those who try to reconstruct heathen religions, as long as they are serious, of course.
Other more "fluffy" pagan practices, on the other hand...
Especially the eclectic stuff.

[nintendo048]

I see them as religion - religion is not "tiered." I don't respect any philosophy or religion that reject evidence-based explanations. However, once you're a legal adult, in the privacy of your home or a privately owned house of worship, you can worship what you want barring abusing others.

You calling Wicca "gay" insults gay people. This is not something made up by a minority of activists as your Unabomber quote suggests, but an Actual Thing you can find out from the LGBT community, should you choose to look outside of your little world that makes you use words like "leftist".

I was talking about how you viewed the religions from a psychological standpoint. ANd i am a legal adult. ANd leftist is a good term because suppost i called you a democrat or socialist or communist or social democrat you could very easily change you views on me even though these people have basically the same world view so leftist is fine even though everybody wants to be special

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I see them as religion - religion is not "tiered." I don't respect any philosophy or religion that reject evidence-based explanations. However, once you're a legal adult, in the privacy of your home or a privately owned house of worship, you can worship what you want barring abusing others.

You calling Wicca "gay" insults gay people. This is not something made up by a minority of activists as your Unabomber quote suggests, but an Actual Thing you can find out from the LGBT community, should you choose to look outside of your little world that makes you use words like "leftist".

I was talking about how you viewed the religions from a psychological standpoint. ANd i am a legal adult. ANd leftist is a good term because suppost i called you a democrat or socialist or communist or social democrat you could very easily change you views on me even though these people have basically the same world view so leftist is fine even though everybody wants to be special

all the political philosophies that i just listed are foems of leftism at varying degrees of intensity

[thesummerqueen]

You don't have to call me anything (you know, instead of asking) - you just have to address the points you made instead of shifting your goal posts or moving to a different playing field altogether.

Just admit it - you have no real reasons for Wicca to go away. You just don't like it - maybe it makes you uncomfortable, maybe you have misconceptions about it, maybe someone around you who practiced it pissed you off or was awkward. So you insult both it, and LGBTs at the same time and then get ridiculous and ranty when called out for it.

[nintendo048]

You don't have to call me anything (you know, instead of asking) - you just have to address the points you made instead of shifting your goal posts or moving to a different playing field altogether.

Just admit it - you have no real reasons for Wicca to go away. You just don't like it - maybe it makes you uncomfortable, maybe you have misconceptions about it, maybe someone around you who practiced it pissed you off or was awkward. So you insult both it, and LGBTs at the same time and then get ridiculous and ranty when called out for it.

you just admitted that you see the religion as inferior because you claimed it was something that i might be uncomfortable with and compare this with how i might see gay people as repellent.

[thesummerqueen]

I don't think I ever said it wasn't inferior. I just said it wasn't inferior in comparison to Christianity. Please read what I write, instead of just picking out the words that make it easy for you to make another post.

[nintendo048]

I don't think I ever said it wasn't inferior. I just said it wasn't inferior in comparison to Christianity. Please read what I write, instead of just picking out the words that make it easy for you to make another post.

you implied it you didnt say it explicitly goodness.

[thesummerqueen]

Ah, yes. You can read whatever you want into posts when it comes to strawmanning, can't you?

[nintendo048]

Ah, yes. You can read whatever you want into posts when it comes to strawmanning, can't you?

what you mean to say is red herring. thats what id'e be do if I was doing anything i just proved that people see this religion as bs

[thesummerqueen]

what you mean to say is red herring. thats what id'e be do if I was doing anything i just proved that people see this religion as bs

1) No one said it wasn't BS. You just wanted to make it more BS than other religions, which isn't true.

2) Your red herrings were what you were doing earlier. Drawing up implications of what I was saying is straw manning.

[nintendo048]

what you mean to say is red herring. thats what id'e be do if I was doing anything i just proved that people see this religion as bs

1) No one said it wasn't BS. You just wanted to make it more BS than other religions, which isn't true.

2) Your red herrings were what you were doing earlier. Drawing up implications of what I was saying is straw manning.

no they arent you responses are just inherently wrong