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RE: Dear God, Eve what have you done?
January 4, 2014 at 12:55 am
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Grace Communion Int'l Wrote:When God explained the consequences of sin, some things remained the same, and others changed.
In Genesis 3, God made gender distinctions, and he said that husbands would rule their wives. At this point in the story, Adam represents subsequent men, and Eve represents subsequent women.
“your desire shall be for your husband, and he shall rule over you.”
Bold added by me to signify just why Eve was put in the story in the first place. That and can anyone say, scapegoat?
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!
Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
Quote:Some people deserve hell.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
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RE: Dear God, Eve what have you done?
January 4, 2014 at 1:05 am
Quote:God created Adam and Eve and left them alone to get to know each other. After a week He came back. "How's it going Adam?" He asked.
"Great!" says Adam.
"Eve's just down at the river, cleaning herself up a bit - we've been at it all week."
God looked up at the sky in dismay and exclaimed, "Hell! Now I'll never get the smell out of the fish."
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RE: Dear God, Eve what have you done?
January 4, 2014 at 1:07 am
(January 4, 2014 at 12:52 am)Drich Wrote: (January 3, 2014 at 11:57 pm)Belac Enrobso Wrote: Any opinions on Eve in genesis of the bible? several.
Quote:She did take the first bite of the apple,
yes
Quote:which led to the eternal cursing of mankind.
no.
Quote:She also gave birth to three sons, just sons.
no. three recorded or named sons. In genesis 5 'many sons and daughters' were mentioned.
Quote:Any opinions, comments, concerns?
I'd like to hear them!
http://atheistforums.org/thread-14190.html
Great post by the way.
Man was not eternally cursed but reaped the consequences of eating the apple. That I now know and understand, thank you for clearing that misconception of mine up.
Adam as well had many daughters and sons, not just sons as I said earlier, I admit I was wrong about my statement. Thank you for clearing that up.
However i don't understand how "men of the garden" could lie with "monkey men" and not produce offspring with fatal genetic defects, much less if the mingling between a "man in the garden" and "monkey men" could produce offspring at all.
Could you please explain this to me, if it's possible.
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RE: Dear God, Eve what have you done?
January 4, 2014 at 1:14 am
(January 4, 2014 at 1:07 am)Belac Enrobso Wrote: (January 4, 2014 at 12:52 am)Drich Wrote: several.
yes
no.
no. three recorded or named sons. In genesis 5 'many sons and daughters' were mentioned.
http://atheistforums.org/thread-14190.html
Great post by the way.
Man was not eternally cursed but reaped the consequences of eating the apple. That I now know and understand, thank you for clearing that misconception of mine up.
Adam as well had many daughters and sons, not just sons as I said earlier, I admit I was wrong about my statement. Thank you for clearing that up.
However i don't understand how "men of the garden" could lie with "monkey men" and not produce offspring with fatal genetic defects, much less if the mingling between a "man in the garden" and "monkey men" could produce offspring at all.
Could you please explain this to me, if it's possible. Monkey man is a metaphor for evolved man this includes women. "The sons of Adam marry the daughters of man" or monkey man.
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RE: Dear God, Eve what have you done?
January 4, 2014 at 1:15 am
So how did the Magic WooHoo god-man change Eve physically to make her reproductive? How did the magic woohoo man make the souls stick to some bags of cellular flesh but not others?
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RE: Dear God, Eve what have you done?
January 4, 2014 at 1:18 am
(January 4, 2014 at 1:14 am)Drich Wrote: (January 4, 2014 at 1:07 am)Belac Enrobso Wrote: Great post by the way.
Man was not eternally cursed but reaped the consequences of eating the apple. That I now know and understand, thank you for clearing that misconception of mine up.
Adam as well had many daughters and sons, not just sons as I said earlier, I admit I was wrong about my statement. Thank you for clearing that up.
However i don't understand how "men of the garden" could lie with "monkey men" and not produce offspring with fatal genetic defects, much less if the mingling between a "man in the garden" and "monkey men" could produce offspring at all.
Could you please explain this to me, if it's possible. Monkey man is a metaphor for evolved man this includes women. "The sons of Adam marry the daughters of man" or monkey man.
How did the sons of Adam mate with evolved man and not produce children with fatal genetic effects, or how were they able to produce offspring at all?
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RE: Dear God, Eve what have you done?
January 4, 2014 at 1:19 am
Yeah I have this to say if Adam hadn't been a bitch and just let Lillith get on top none that would've happened. So he can totally shove stuff up her butt, but she can't stuff it up his? This all happened because Adam didn't want to be topped, he's a bad sub. Go Lillith!
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RE: Dear God, Eve what have you done?
January 4, 2014 at 1:23 am
Drich, I'd like to know (assuming you take the Genesis story as the literal beginning of mankind), what you think about this timeline from the Smithsonian Institute?
http://humanorigins.si.edu/evidence/huma...nteractive
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!
Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
Quote:Some people deserve hell.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
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RE: Dear God, Eve what have you done?
January 4, 2014 at 1:31 am
(January 4, 2014 at 1:15 am)Brakeman Wrote: So how did the Magic WooHoo god-man change Eve physically to make her reproductive? How did the magic woohoo man make the souls stick to some bags of cellular flesh but not others?
How do you know she was not made that way?
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RE: Dear God, Eve what have you done?
January 4, 2014 at 1:37 am
Drich I am waiting for a reply to my questions good sir.
How did the sons of Adam produce offspring with evolved man without any offspring having fatal genetic effects. How were they able to produce offspring at all?
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