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So, I'm Getting Confirmed
#21
RE: So, I'm Getting Confirmed
Don't underestimate your parent's love. I think honesty towards them is the best policy.
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#22
RE: So, I'm Getting Confirmed
(January 4, 2014 at 3:50 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Don't underestimate your parent's love.

Don't underestimate their idiocy either.
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#23
RE: So, I'm Getting Confirmed
Right, you're going to have to do this if you want to live happily with your family, eh?

Here's what I would suggest. Evidence: use bible verses and personal experiences. So say you experienced something and you think it's god interfering, then certain bible verses show that you're right, god does do these things. Or the other way around, you read this in the bible, not quite sure what it meant, then personal experience!!!! Now you've got it! I mean if you claim to have a dream and that it's from god, no one in the church will tell you you're delusional. That's basically how Revelations was written.

Wink

Good luck
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#24
RE: So, I'm Getting Confirmed
(January 4, 2014 at 4:09 am)rasetsu Wrote:


Fuck it. We all have to face unpleasant things in life, you're just getting a taste early. Make up something generic and non-specific, and just look forward to putting it behind you.


Unusually, I'm with rasetsu on this one.

Nobody can give you advice Childofreason, because none of us know your circumstances. I'd like to think that they love you enough that they'd want you to be genuine. However parents are also very, very human and its entirely possible that your "coming out" would force them to face truths they are not strong enough to face just now. I've had experience of lying to my parents to spare them pain, and then of them finding out who and what i really was and I wish I'd been better at the former so none of us had to face the latter.

As strange as it may sound, lieing might just be the strongest thing you can do. You take on the burden of their credulity. If you are strong enough to do that, then good on you.

Stinking situation. Sometimes hate religion.
"Peace is a lie, there is only passion.
Through passion, I gain strength.
Through strength, I gain power.
Through power, I gain victory.
Through victory, my chains are broken."
Sith code
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#25
RE: So, I'm Getting Confirmed
Okay, some real advice from a former atheist. Come clean with the folks. Ask to delay your confirmation while you "sort things out", and ask them to pray for you (that will give them something to do while you go on with your life). And yes I told my parents when I had doubts.
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#26
RE: So, I'm Getting Confirmed
Someday, CoR, you'll have a boss who is an even bigger dickhead than god...and who has the added disadvantage of being real and in a position to fuck you up.

Learning to deal with dickheads by telling them what they want to hear is part of life. Xtians, as the biggest dickheads of all, will be good practice.
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#27
RE: So, I'm Getting Confirmed
Could go subversive and write about the need for honesty and integrity...
Of course you could browse this forum (and couple of others) and just copy&paste theist arguments.
Quote:I don't understand why you'd come to a discussion forum, and then proceed to reap from visibility any voice that disagrees with you. If you're going to do that, why not just sit in front of a mirror and pat yourself on the back continuously?
-Esquilax

Evolution - Adapt or be eaten.
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#28
RE: So, I'm Getting Confirmed
I love how the theists are condescending and full of malice ....
just like jesus taught, right brothers!? Thumb up


Anyway COReason
Firstly, and most importantly, completely disregard what the christards say ... they're half-wits who believe in ancient superstitions.
Secondly, Minimalist is right. Throughout your life you're going to have to occasionally (not often, but occasionally) tell a lie in order to appease someone or some group. You think the people who ran the underground railroad for the slaves didn't have to lie once in awhile, or that the people protecting jews in Nazi Germany didn't have to pretend to hate Jews? Please.

For now you have to pretend to serve a fictional character. In time, you will be free and it'll be worth it. Until then, keep coming to see us and you can vent your frustrations in a safe place.

Cheers.
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#29
RE: So, I'm Getting Confirmed
(January 5, 2014 at 2:04 am)Minimalist Wrote: Someday, CoR, you'll have a boss who is an even bigger dickhead than god...and who has the added disadvantage of being real and in a position to fuck you up.

Learning to deal with dickheads by telling them what they want to hear is part of life. Xtians, as the biggest dickheads of all, will be good practice.


A bigger dickhead than God? I don't know of many humans who commit mass genocide by having a select group of their children kill another group.
Nor have I ever met a man who killed the first born children of everybody in a culture.
Or a man who loves people, but damns them to hell if his love is unrequited.
¨I contend that we are both atheists, I just believe in one fewer god than you. When you understand why you dismiss all other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.¨
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#30
RE: So, I'm Getting Confirmed
But "god" is fictional. Your boss can fire you.

Reality is a bitch.
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