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Is the Fall a Good Thing
#21
RE: Is the Fall a Good Thing
From a mythological standpoint, the fall was certainly a good thing.
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#22
RE: Is the Fall a Good Thing
See this is the thing.

The Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil - This to me means that if I ate an apple I would know Good and Evil. This then implies that by not eating from the tree I have no awareness of what Good and Evil Is.

Imagine saying to a toddler 2 years old - Don't eat that or you will surely die. Whats the odds the toddler will understand you and make the right decision.

The same applies in the Garden. How can Adam go against God which is an (Evil) act if he did not know what (Evil) was. So if Adam did not know that Going against God was wrong then how can he be punished for not knowing.

Its the same as you hitting a child when they do something wrong but not actually telling them until after the fact why you hit them - You never gave them a chance.
Rants and Raves from an Ex-Christian http://walkofthemonkeyman.blogspot.co.uk/
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#23
RE: Is the Fall a Good Thing
Hang on. You said some weird stuff to me in your previous reply. Address that.
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#24
RE: Is the Fall a Good Thing
God is an asshole, he gives bad blowjobs. Fucking faggot.
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#25
RE: Is the Fall a Good Thing
(January 6, 2014 at 2:49 pm)pineapplebunnybounce Wrote: Hang on. You said some weird stuff to me in your previous reply. Address that.

Quote:No what I am trying to work out is how Athiests who do not have a belief in aspects of the bible stand up to why they do not believe aspects of the Bible. I am not asking you to prove that its wrong I am asking you to prove your argument that says its wrong


In essence I am not asking you to prove Genesis right or wrong heck no one can really do that without someone independent documenting it.

What I was asking which you have since addressed is what made you come to the conclusion that Genesis was false.

Just saying the sky is blue does not make it so - There is a reason behind its color in order for it to be said 'Blue'.

Same as the bible. You cannot make the conjecture that it is 'Myth' without providing reasons for that assertion. You have noted previously you were a Believer so obviously there has to be reasons for you not to believe anymore. What were they?
Rants and Raves from an Ex-Christian http://walkofthemonkeyman.blogspot.co.uk/
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#26
RE: Is the Fall a Good Thing
Autumn is my favorite season, so yes....
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#27
RE: Is the Fall a Good Thing
(January 6, 2014 at 3:06 pm)themonkeyman Wrote:
(January 6, 2014 at 2:49 pm)pineapplebunnybounce Wrote: Hang on. You said some weird stuff to me in your previous reply. Address that.

Quote:No what I am trying to work out is how Athiests who do not have a belief in aspects of the bible stand up to why they do not believe aspects of the Bible. I am not asking you to prove that its wrong I am asking you to prove your argument that says its wrong


In essence I am not asking you to prove Genesis right or wrong heck no one can really do that without someone independent documenting it.

What I was asking which you have since addressed is what made you come to the conclusion that Genesis was false.

Just saying the sky is blue does not make it so - There is a reason behind its color in order for it to be said 'Blue'.

Same as the bible. You cannot make the conjecture that it is 'Myth' without providing reasons for that assertion. You have noted previously you were a Believer so obviously there has to be reasons for you not to believe anymore. What were they?

I just did. What the fuck? You are the one who's pretending it is real without any justifications. You asked me why I think it's a myth and I told you why. If you find any flaw in my reasonings go ahead and point it out.
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#28
RE: Is the Fall a Good Thing
God hates us all
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#29
RE: Is the Fall a Good Thing
@pineapple I just said I agreed with you - why are you getting hostile? I asked you to present your reasoning and I do not stop you from that.

What I do say is that although you may need Evidence - I doubt that will ever be possible. All the answers we know to everything now are not fixed and are always subject to changed. Can we go faster than the speed of light for example?

As the saying goes 'Each to their Own'
Rants and Raves from an Ex-Christian http://walkofthemonkeyman.blogspot.co.uk/
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#30
RE: Is the Fall a Good Thing
(January 6, 2014 at 3:28 pm)themonkeyman Wrote: @pineapple I just said I agreed with you - why are you getting hostile? I asked you to present your reasoning and I do not stop you from that.

What I do say is that although you may need Evidence - I doubt that will ever be possible. All the answers we know to everything now are not fixed and are always subject to changed. Can we go faster than the speed of light for example?

As the saying goes 'Each to their Own'

Oh ok. Yea, read it over again. I wasn't hostile, I just didn't understand what you were saying.

The reason was evolution. And actually thinking about Genesis. People often say the bible deconverted them, for me it would have to be Genesis.
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