Is the Fall a Good Thing

[Godscreated]

The longer I'm here the more dense I see some atheist are. Parents have unconditional love for their children, yet they punish them when they disobey. As I said, obedience is our way of showing love to God, even when we disobey we are still loved, God loves you and He has put no conditions on that love.

GC

First of all, you ain't talking to no prophet.
Second of all, why you talking to me? Why the fuck do you think you can generalize atheists in the same league as a prophet of god?

Maybe we'll meet sometime. Have a talk...

OK, I'm better now,

I didn't address you as a prophet and I surely wouldn't mistake you for one. You're the one who jumped on my post, you should expect a response. We live in the same time zone so you never know. Lots of people come to my part of the country on vacation.

GC

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Gc.. im still waiting for evidence. Proooooof of ur god.. what does he look like?? Define him physically please.. please....

I'm not required by God to give you proof, God is spirit He has no physical limits, that's why He can move through His creation as He pleases.

GC

[houseofcantor]

I didn't address you as a prophet and I surely wouldn't mistake you for one. You're the one who jumped on my post, you should expect a response. We live in the same time zone so you never know. Lots of people come to my part of the country on vacation.

GC

Interesting that you would address me at all. Everybody else seems to know when I'm in loopy mode and to ignore me.

[Godscreated]

Gladly, you know nothing of the truth of scriptures, how's that. You assume all sin is evil, the scriptures do not say this. There are evil sins but all sin is not evil. If all sin is evil then that would make you extremely evil and if you do not accept Christ into your life... well a true justice awaits.

GC

If god is supposedly all good, and sin is the opposite of god, then wouldn't all sin be evil?

No, it is not, nor is it described that way.

How do you tell the difference between a neutral sin and an evil sin? What's the criteria, and where in the bible can reference to this be found?

No sin is neutral, you are just trying to play the stupid fool, by the way you're doing a good job at it. The Bible describes the different sins, I would think that someone like you who claims to know so much about the scriptures would know this. Showing your lack of knowledge. You're the one making the claim that all sin is evil, you need to get the references yourself.

The way you're phrasing it, it seems like sin is just a list of things your god doesn't like, and has therefore demanded the rest of existence must not do under threats, rather than a set of rules that actually have some purpose. What an entitled little twerp your god must be, in that case.

For those who reject God sin is a life style, for those who believe in Christ, we try to obey God in the way we understand and stay away from sin.

I also find it very interesting how your lot will excuse god's actions in the garden by saying Adam and Eve had free will, which allowed them to sin, but then you'll spin around and say that there was a set of evil actions that they absolutely could not do, thereby restricting their moral alignment.

They did have free will, just because you do not want to take responsibility though free will does not mean it doesn't exist. Grow up, you can't wish away God nor His truth. The ones making excuses was Adam and Eve, bet you missed that part, right. They couldn't do evil until they disobeyed, only the ignorant can't see this.

Why, it's almost as if you're just making it up on the spot!

You sir are the one who makes up much, because you need to make yourself look better, what a pity.

GC

[truthBtold]

First of all, you ain't talking to no prophet.
Second of all, why you talking to me? Why the fuck do you think you can generalize atheists in the same league as a prophet of god?

Maybe we'll meet sometime. Have a talk...

OK, I'm better now,

I didn't address you as a prophet and I surely wouldn't mistake you for one. You're the one who jumped on my post, you should expect a response. We live in the same time zone so you never know. Lots of people come to my part of the country on vacation.

GC

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Gc.. im still waiting for evidence. Proooooof of ur god.. what does he look like?? Define him physically please.. please....

I'm not required by God to give you proof, God is spirit He has no physical limits, that's why He can move through His creation as He pleases.

GC

What is spirit?

[Godscreated]

What is spirit?

Non physical, outside of that I do not know, why does it really matter?

GC

[truthBtold]

What is spirit?

Non physical, outside of that I do not know, why does it really matter?

GC

U just answered ur own question again.. u dont know... truth matters.. and when u state something with out truth is wrong

[Esquilax]

No sin is neutral, you are just trying to play the stupid fool, by the way you're doing a good job at it.

You were the one who said that not all sin is evil, GC. I wasn't going to then presume the opposite, that there are some good sins, so I opted for neutral, to avoid making a declarative statement on a position that you have made too vague.

Insulting me for your own failing just makes you look crass.

The Bible describes the different sins, I would think that someone like you who claims to know so much about the scriptures would know this. Showing your lack of knowledge. You're the one making the claim that all sin is evil, you need to get the references yourself.

So, essentially you have no justification for the claim you made, and now you're dancing?

I'll expect I'll see more of that in future.

They did have free will, just because you do not want to take responsibility though free will does not mean it doesn't exist. Grow up, you can't wish away God nor His truth. The ones making excuses was Adam and Eve, bet you missed that part, right. They couldn't do evil until they disobeyed, only the ignorant can't see this.

Wow, someone's projecting a lot of stuff I never said, here. But then, that's hardly surprising, since you don't seem to actually have an argument of your own. So let me ask you again: what are the criteria for what sins could and could not be performed in the garden- the evil ones, versus the other ones- and where in the bible do you find this list? Furthermore, what is the distinction in the actions of the fall that allowed it to happen, and how was that sin not evil?

You sir are the one who makes up much, because you need to make yourself look better, what a pity.

GC

"No, you are!"

Kindergarten argumentation. Not surprising, given the source.