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Numeric miracles of Quran?
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Numeric miracles of Quran?
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Are you suggesting that numerical trickery equals miracles? Because if so, someone - not necessarily you - has a very low credulity threshold.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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(January 6, 2014 at 5:48 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Are you suggesting that numerical trickery equals miracles? Because if so, someone - not necessarily you - has a very low credulity threshold.

Nope not me. But this does make you wonder how any man could have produced this or how it could come by through coincidence. I don't feel I have a legitimate reply to it anyway...
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Well, there's one easy answer right off the top of my head. Man did produce it; or at least, took note of numerological coincidences and imposed their own meaning on them, while ignoring anything that didn't fit the perceived pattern.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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Fucking numerology again? What, no stomach for typing out a golden ratio argument?

Jesus H. Mohamed Moses Christ! Is this unique to the Abrahamic religions? I don't ever recall seeing a numerology based argument for the Vedas or Upanishads.
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Thanks for the replies. Still looking for more specific criticism or comments. Realistically, what is the probability of this (and other) patterns occurring? I'm looking for some specific mathematical critiques or other reasons why this numeric code isn't valid. Maybe the Quran its self doesn't support it. I don't know. I'm familiar with the argument about the codes in other books and they never seem as compelling or as thorough as what I'm dealing with. If someone can actually find an example of something this intricate, that would be good criticism. Anyway you guys have some good thoughts. I'm not pushing this stuff of Islam, I just don't know....
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So because the Quran has numbered verses, & the numbers of the verses form patterns that must be a miracle? Smells like bullshit!
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