I've heard that we have discovered billions of fossils, though I can't find a reputable source that isn't Creationist to confirm it. Any idea? I'm pretty sure we possess hundreds of transitional fossils but I find that fairly suspicious (as Darwin predicted the Earth should be sprawling with them) if we literally have billions. What gives? Not doubting evolution but is there something in the process that would account for this?
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How many fossils have been discovered?
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I can't tell you exactly how many but I almost regularly find them here. Where I live we have big hills covered in chalk everywhere, every now and then you see a split rock with a nice fossil inside. If I find them often by accident then how many do you think people who know what they are doing find them?
 Quote:I'm pretty sure we possess hundreds of transitional fossils but I find that fairly suspicious You shouldn't. Firstly, it is pretty difficult to become a fossil To begin with, you have to die in the right place. Then you have to get somehow covered over before something comes along and eats your remains (and its no good getting covered over with just any old muck). If you DO managed to become fossilized, you have to not be destroyed - volcanic eruption, subduction, fracturing. If you get through all this, you're still not home free: as a fossil, you're of no use whatsoever until and unless someone finds you. Finally, if you look at them properly, ALL fossils are transitional forms. Boru
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Copenhagen School  Religious Views: Its all bullshit to keep you handing money to the usher. (January 10, 2014 at 6:05 pm)Pickup_shonuff Wrote: I've heard that we have discovered billions of fossils, though I can't find a reputable source that isn't Creationist to confirm it. Any idea? I'm pretty sure we possess hundreds of transitional fossils but I find that fairly suspicious (as Darwin predicted the Earth should be sprawling with them) if we literally have billions. What gives? Not doubting evolution but is there something in the process that would account for this?Here is a good list of transitional forms, though incomplete. http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/List_of_transitional_forms
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Copenhagen School Religious Views: Its all bullshit to keep you handing money to the usher. (January 10, 2014 at 7:17 pm)orogenicman Wrote:Yes they are, but most ( even scientists) mean transitional forms are fossils reflecting change from one clade to another.(January 10, 2014 at 6:05 pm)Pickup_shonuff Wrote: I've heard that we have discovered billions of fossils, though I can't find a reputable source that isn't Creationist to confirm it. Any idea? I'm pretty sure we possess hundreds of transitional fossils but I find that fairly suspicious (as Darwin predicted the Earth should be sprawling with them) if we literally have billions. What gives? Not doubting evolution but is there something in the process that would account for this?
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We do literally have billions. They're stored in drawers and cabinets in museums, some museums have huge rooms filled with them because it takes so long to figure out what they are, longer than it takes to find them. Maybe they keep some in universities now. So yea, they're stored, processing takes very long which is a little frustrating because something great could be hidden in a drawer full of similarly sized bones waiting to be noticed.
There's this place in upstate New York on the side of a main road. It looks like your standard outcrop with a bunch of stones around it. But if you get closer, you see all the stones and the outcrop have fossils. You literally stand upon millions, maybe billions, of fossilized early marine life. And that is just one little dot on the map. Not to mention it is only one of the many localities in NY.
(January 10, 2014 at 7:19 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote:(January 10, 2014 at 7:17 pm)orogenicman Wrote: What gives is that the concept of transitional species is spurious, at best with regard to the fossil record. ALL species are transitional.Yes they are, but most ( even scientists) mean transitional forms are fossils reflecting change from one clade to another. Do you know of a fossil species that doesn't?
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