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RE: Why Religions Cannot Be Accurate
January 12, 2014 at 3:45 pm
(This post was last modified: January 12, 2014 at 3:50 pm by xr34p3rx.)
(January 12, 2014 at 2:19 pm)Vegamo Wrote: (January 12, 2014 at 1:57 pm)It Is i Wrote: (bold added by me)
You've made some bold assertions. Can you prove them about ME?
Can you prove them wrong? I just typed half a page explaining why.
You don't wake up one day and find out you believe in something. You built those beliefs based on what you experienced around you.
we can disprove certain things but in general, with what we know about the universe and life, religions arent plausible
(January 12, 2014 at 1:57 pm)It Is i Wrote: (January 12, 2014 at 1:29 pm)Vegamo Wrote: Obviously EVERYONE in the world....
why do you think you are the special one?....
As a human being you KNOW you built your....
built by your family and your society....
you KNOW you wouldn't have the same faith if YOU were born and raised in the Surma tribe of Ethiopia....
Wake Up. (bold added by me)
You've made some bold assertions. Can you prove them about ME?
i think you misunderstood what he was saying, hes not pointing at you, if what he is saying doesnt apply to you, then hes probably not talking to you
(January 12, 2014 at 1:29 pm)Vegamo Wrote: I've come to a different conclusion to why Religions couldn't be "God's" creation. Take a moment of your time to read (this isn't new BTW someone probably said this somewhere, I Just happened to think of it on my own):
Humans are all different, but also socially related depending on location (See definition: Meme), while our perception of life is unique to every single human on earth, it's also altered by it's specific society.
This also is evident with religions, notice how many different communities of Christianity or Islam still exists(and they're making more), but not only that, notice that even when you look in your own "circle" of religious community, you happen to find their perception and understanding of the very same religion and "God" a little different than your own.
For example, I knew many Muslims who would choose to follow certain areas of the Quraan and not all. Some that varied from individuals who would drink alcohol but not involve them selves in premarital sex, or the ones who did the exact opposite (they would not drink, but have premarital sex).
Or take the dress code for example, you have the Muslim women who overdress them selves to the point where you don't know what gender they are, or the ones who puts makeup on while wearing tight clothing with hijab. These religious individuals that fall on the middle edge of their faith tend to label them selves as (Makteer dayneh) or in English (not very religious, but believe in god)
When you ask these (Semi)-Religious individuals why they aren't following all the rules, they will either tell you they comprehended the religion to "their ideas" and lifestyle and are fully convinced to go to heaven, or they will tell you that they are hoping to meet the minimum average of Good Vs Bad (which isn't really determined but it goes by points).
And then there are most Christians who believe Jesus has already forgiven us for our sins and that as long as we are good people and believe in his existence shall we go to heaven.
Obviously EVERYONE in the world has their own perception of the universe and our own existence and lot of it is influenced by your peers and family, why do you think you are the special one? Why on earth would God create such confusion by laying the foundation for multiple different religions and rules for many others to follow? Is he trolling us? is he testing us? Are we his project?
As a human being you KNOW you built your life and beliefs on the foundation that was built by your family and your society, you KNOW you wouldn't have the same faith if YOU were born and raised in the Surma tribe of Ethiopia
Wake Up.
to reflect on what you are saying, to me. religions are made based on culture.
If a certain area of the world thinks that killing traitors is ok, they will make a god based on what they believe is moral and end up believing their own lie. Notice that in Christianity, sacrifice was done in the bible and in certain cultures. so why wouldn't they include sacrifice in their book too? its what they believe to be ok
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it isn't in our nature to think of a God, it is in our nature to seek answers and the concept of God is most influenced in this world.
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RE: Why Religions Cannot Be Accurate
January 12, 2014 at 3:54 pm
(This post was last modified: January 12, 2014 at 3:58 pm by ShaMan.)
(January 12, 2014 at 3:45 pm)xr34p3rx Wrote: i think you misunderstood what he was saying, hes not pointing at you, if what he is saying doesnt apply to you, then hes probably not talking to you I understood the OP quite thoroughly. The philosophical premise is rather transparent. I simply repudiated the premise using a comparative construct. In other words; if "Religion is flawed" then the concept that religion is flawed is also "flawed", and for identical, subjective reasons.
(January 12, 2014 at 2:31 pm)Vegamo Wrote: Everyone's perspective is different...
Which clearly demonstrates how one person's observations can be utterly incorrect when applied to others.
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RE: Why Religions Cannot Be Accurate
January 12, 2014 at 4:06 pm
(January 12, 2014 at 1:29 pm)Vegamo Wrote: Wake Up.
Awwww, 5 more minutes....
Who died and gave you the right to tell people what to do. Anyone would think you were a Christian or something.
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Through passion, I gain strength.
Through strength, I gain power.
Through power, I gain victory.
Through victory, my chains are broken."
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RE: Why Religions Cannot Be Accurate
January 12, 2014 at 4:29 pm
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I get what you mean, but you are assuming to much that everyone knows this information. They don't. Everyone has a different view on life. Atheist become atheist for different reasons. Not that they/we all think it is just a culture thing...
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RE: Why Religions Cannot Be Accurate
January 12, 2014 at 4:31 pm
(January 12, 2014 at 4:06 pm)Jacob(smooth) Wrote: (January 12, 2014 at 1:29 pm)Vegamo Wrote: Wake Up.
Awwww, 5 more minutes....
Who died and gave you the right to tell people what to do. Anyone would think you were a Christian or something.
I am an ex Muslim, I was born and raised in Syria before my family migrated to the USA when I was in 6 grade. It was a long journey out of one hell of a mind fuck I'll tell you that.
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RE: Why Religions Cannot Be Accurate
January 13, 2014 at 3:22 am
It's a faulty generalization. You can't go from "some religions" must be false to "all religions are likely false" without some additional logic.
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RE: Why Religions Cannot Be Accurate
January 13, 2014 at 7:51 pm
(January 13, 2014 at 3:22 am)rasetsu Wrote:
It's a faulty generalization. You can't go from "some religions" must be false to "all religions are likely false" without some additional logic.
So they are all false to me until your God shows some sort of proof, better get to praying.
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RE: Why Religions Cannot Be Accurate
January 13, 2014 at 7:55 pm
Quote:As a human being you KNOW you built your life and beliefs on the foundation that was built by your family and your society, you KNOW you wouldn't have the same faith if YOU were born and raised in the Surma tribe of Ethiopia
People also have an almost unlimited capacity for self-delusion, my friend.
That cancels out a lot of reality.
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RE: Why Religions Cannot Be Accurate
January 14, 2014 at 2:34 am
(January 13, 2014 at 7:51 pm)Vegamo Wrote: (January 13, 2014 at 3:22 am)rasetsu Wrote: It's a faulty generalization. You can't go from "some religions" must be false to "all religions are likely false" without some additional logic.
So they are all false to me until your God shows some sort of proof, better get to praying.
My "God" probably doesn't give a rat's ass about you. Why should she demonstrate anything to you?
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RE: Why Religions Cannot Be Accurate
January 14, 2014 at 3:14 am
(January 14, 2014 at 2:34 am)rasetsu Wrote: (January 13, 2014 at 7:51 pm)Vegamo Wrote: So they are all false to me until your God shows some sort of proof, better get to praying.
My "God" probably doesn't give a rat's ass about you. Why should she demonstrate anything to you?
Except that until Kali demonstrates her exsistance your just as unjustified in your religion as any Christian here.
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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