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If Jesus was just a man, why all the stories?
#31
RE: If Jesus was just a man, why all the stories?
Quote:The roman military machine that had built the empire had already more or less been subsumed by less professional forces of the civil war 50 years before Constantine,

One of those "forces" was Constantine himself who used a frontier army to march to march on Rome and make himself emperor. That political problem is what he was trying to solve and in doing so, as one commentator put it: Constantine reforms had set the stage for 'lords' on horseback commanding poorly equipped conscripts.

Even worse was that his intention was to cement his dynasty but his sons turned out to be useless sacks of shit. Within 15 years the "dynasty" was overthrown and Rome continued its inexorable decline.
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#32
RE: If Jesus was just a man, why all the stories?
(January 29, 2014 at 3:33 pm)Minimalist Wrote:
Quote:The roman military machine that had built the empire had already more or less been subsumed by less professional forces of the civil war 50 years before Constantine,

One of those "forces" was Constantine himself who used a frontier army to march to march on Rome and make himself emperor. That political problem is what he was trying to solve and in doing so, as one commentator put it: Constantine reforms had set the stage for 'lords' on horseback commanding poorly equipped conscripts.

Even worse was that his intention was to cement his dynasty but his sons turned out to be useless sacks of shit. Within 15 years the "dynasty" was overthrown and Rome continued its inexorable decline.


Lords on horsebacks have ruled Rome almost continuously through increasingly poorly trained and equipped troops since about 230 ADs. Constantine wasn't doing anything out of ordinary for his age.

Roman army actually continued to retain a semi-professional and adaquately equipped mobile core until Adrianople.
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#33
RE: If Jesus was just a man, why all the stories?
Adrianople's blow landed mainly on the Eastern empire whose emperor Valens perished therein.

Yet it was the Western half which fell less than 60 years later. Odd except it shows that the economic basis of the Roman world was in the East which was able to recover while the West was doomed.
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#34
RE: If Jesus was just a man, why all the stories?
Paul preaching to the Gentiles was a smart marketing move. A better marketing move was eliminating circumcision.
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#35
RE: If Jesus was just a man, why all the stories?
Lies.
GROOVY
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#36
RE: If Jesus was just a man, why all the stories?
"Paul" seems to be as phony as his godboy.
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#37
RE: If Jesus was just a man, why all the stories?
(January 30, 2014 at 8:56 am)catman Wrote: Paul preaching to the Gentiles was a smart marketing move. A better marketing move was eliminating circumcision.

Good to see you recognize God's work. Now if you would only take a look at what He offers'

GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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#38
RE: If Jesus was just a man, why all the stories?
Whats gods work??
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#39
RE: If Jesus was just a man, why all the stories?
(January 31, 2014 at 2:16 am)Godschild Wrote:
(January 30, 2014 at 8:56 am)catman Wrote: Paul preaching to the Gentiles was a smart marketing move. A better marketing move was eliminating circumcision.

Good to see you recognize God's work.

Actually I don't. I am recognizing the works of Paul.
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