(February 3, 2014 at 10:34 am)Crossless1 Wrote:No, No you have an all new kind of indoctrination that changes from generation to generation. That way when your kid is your age he can make moral judgements against you and this generations.(February 3, 2014 at 4:08 am)Drich Wrote: It's passed down because everyone in a given family believes. Are you suggesting the parents should have excluded their kid from their religion? Maybe left him in the house while they goto church? Is this better? Is this what atheist do with their kids when they have a family out ting but don't want to bring their kids along?
My family outings don't involve indoctrination on behalf of an ancient cult.
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"Peace is a lie, there is only passion.
Through passion, I gain strength. Through strength, I gain power. Through power, I gain victory. Through victory, my chains are broken." Sith code  (February 3, 2014 at 10:51 am)Drich Wrote:(February 3, 2014 at 10:34 am)Crossless1 Wrote: My family outings don't involve indoctrination on behalf of an ancient cult.No, No you have an all new kind of indoctrination that changes from generation to generation. That way when your kid is your age he can make moral judgements against you and this generations. What indoctrination would that be? That evidence and sound methodology trump ancient, hard-to-believe claims? Guilty as charged. That their moral compasses should be guided by a healthy concern for themselves and others, rather than appealing to some alleged god's holy book that they will spend their lives defending, twisting and turning in the throes of the most rank moral relativism while insisting that the god they worship is the ultimate arbiter of "objective" morals? Yep, guilty. As for generations making moral judgements against their elders, nothing new there. Each generation has its failures and shortcomings to answer for. We are not immune from future censure.  (February 3, 2014 at 7:24 am)Godschild Wrote: What lies The lies you refuse to see as lies, because your rose-colored glasses and cognitive dissonance prevent you from seeing that everything encompassing religion is a lie.
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
~ Erin Hunter  (February 4, 2014 at 2:21 am)Kitanetos Wrote:(February 3, 2014 at 7:24 am)Godschild Wrote: What lies What proof do you have that religion is a lie? It's funny how you people will take something you have no concept of...not a clue about, and turn it into a negative. Especially since there is no harm done to the child or family. And is actually inspiring to others with disabilities! Yet someone screws millions including yours truly... with the obvious lie: "they can keep their doctors", gets the free ride! Talk about the perverbial "sheep"! Always seeking, finding and straining on the gnat and swallowing the camel.
Quis ut Deus?
 (February 4, 2014 at 2:21 am)Kitanetos Wrote:(February 3, 2014 at 7:24 am)Godschild Wrote: What lies What lies and you need to bring some proof we all lie? GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!
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