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RE: Why your exsistence is more worthless than you previousy thought it was.
February 6, 2014 at 8:51 pm
(February 6, 2014 at 5:00 pm)Pickup_shonuff Wrote: (February 5, 2014 at 1:04 pm)x2theone2x Wrote: We as organic lifeforms will cease to function. We will die and lose our consciousness, and then we shall reemerge ourselves into the state of darkness and nothingness we were experiencing(or not experiencing) an infinite amount of foreseeable time prior before we were. The actions we perform during our life, as well as the thoughts, are universally pointless. We'll have no recollection or feeling of said actions or thoughts after death. We won't be able to look upon them or contemplate them. The memory's of your actions, feelings, and emotions will never come into play again, nor will you care if they do, because you are factually nothing. It's quite identical as if life never occurred for any organic to begin with. We as organics all share something, equality in prenatal, and equality in death; being able to do nothing, and being nothing. ( more specific you'll still be energy of some sort, disassociation of matter, etc.) And so your post was totally worthless?
I agree, but inaction is synonymous with action in this life.
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RE: Why your exsistence is more worthless than you previousy thought it was.
February 6, 2014 at 9:00 pm
I misunderstood the OP. I thought he was literally saying something happens after you die.
As to the rest, it's nothing more than a statement of the value he places on his life. Statements of value are by nature relative, so you can't say that this specific value of an individual's existence holds absolutely and from all frames of reference. It's assuming a specific viewpoint on the question of life's value and insisting that all others must share that same viewpoint because the viewpoint itself is an objective fact. It's not. Viewpoints themselves are not objective facts, so the OP is simply wrong.
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RE: Why your exsistence is more worthless than you previousy thought it was.
February 6, 2014 at 9:16 pm
Let me just say that my existence proved its worth the day I saved my first life.
We give our own existence worth.
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RE: Why your exsistence is more worthless than you previousy thought it was.
February 6, 2014 at 9:19 pm
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(February 6, 2014 at 8:51 pm)x2theone2x Wrote: (February 6, 2014 at 5:00 pm)Pickup_shonuff Wrote: And so your post was totally worthless?
I agree, but inaction is synonymous with action in this life.
That's just a word game, odd since words are pointless and you use them as if they convey some apparent meaning.
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These two sentences are different, not synonymous, and so it is with action/inaction, existence/nonexistence.
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RE: Why your exsistence is more worthless than you previousy thought it was.
February 6, 2014 at 9:28 pm
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(February 6, 2014 at 9:16 pm)Beccs Wrote: Let me just say that my existence proved its worth the day I saved my first life.
We give our own existence worth.
That's relative meaning, - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relativism
I'm discussing factual meaning, or worth. We are all factually worth the same amount outside of our social constructed hierarchies, and that is universally worthless and pointless. I don't see how it could be anything else unless you added a constraint such as a social construct.
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RE: Why your exsistence is more worthless than you previousy thought it was.
February 6, 2014 at 10:16 pm
(February 6, 2014 at 9:28 pm)x2theone2x Wrote: I don't see how it could be anything else...
Are you confessing that your entire point rests on a fallacious argument from ignorance?
Tell me you've got something more than this.
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RE: Why your exsistence is more worthless than you previousy thought it was.
February 6, 2014 at 10:22 pm
"Factual meaning." That's a new one. Is that like the color of jealousy?
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RE: Why your exsistence is more worthless than you previousy thought it was.
February 6, 2014 at 10:35 pm
(February 6, 2014 at 9:28 pm)x2theone2x Wrote: (February 6, 2014 at 9:16 pm)Beccs Wrote: Let me just say that my existence proved its worth the day I saved my first life.
We give our own existence worth.
That's relative meaning, - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relativism
I'm discussing factual meaning, or worth. We are all factually worth the same amount outside of our social constructed hierarchies, and that is universally worthless and pointless. I don't see how it could be anything else unless you added a constraint such as a social construct.
Perhaps you are meaning-deaf. No shame in that.
"Factual meaning"?! What to hell is that? Apart from social constructions where else did you expect to find personal meaning? Inside a cell membrane? Dark matter? Stone tablets?
Words have a meaning and are true when what they convey corresponds to actual states of affairs. You can ask your question but it doesn't actually correspond to anything real. You are using words but saying nothing.
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RE: Why your exsistence is more worthless than you previousy thought it was.
February 6, 2014 at 10:43 pm
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C'mon whateverist, everyone knows that "factual meaning" is found in ancient mysterious texts that say, "This is meaningful."
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RE: Why your exsistence is more worthless than you previousy thought it was.
February 6, 2014 at 10:48 pm
Which one?
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