Why your exsistence is more worthless than you previousy thought it was.

[max-greece]

I just want to take a moment to thank all the atheists who frequent this forum for the insights they have given me. Thank you.

I have my own rather technical reasons for believing nihilism is bogus, but the responses on this and other common questions by every day atheists and humanists teaches me things I probably wouldn't know otherwise.

So to all that contribute their own slice of the pie, thank you, you have enriched my life.

What a beautiful post to grace the forums with. Kudos.

Also - in itself something of an undermining of the whole nihilist argument. Benefit can be benefit however temporary.

[x2theone2x]

We as organic lifeforms will cease to function. We will die and lose our consciousness, and then we shall reemerge ourselves into the state of darkness and nothingness we were experiencing(or not experiencing) an infinite amount of foreseeable time prior before we were. The actions we perform during our life, as well as the thoughts, are universally pointless. We'll have no recollection or feeling of said actions or thoughts after death. We won't be able to look upon them or contemplate them. The memory's of your actions, feelings, and emotions will never come into play again, nor will you care if they do, because you are factually nothing. It's quite identical as if life never occurred for any organic to begin with. We as organics all share something, equality in prenatal, and equality in death; being able to do nothing, and being nothing. ( more specific you'll still be energy of some sort, disassociation of matter, etc.)

I'm wondering how you know all this?

If someone has received brain damaged, and cannot function in life. Why then, when the brain is completely gone, one would think it would function in anyway? Paraphrased from Sam Harris.

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Nietzsche's misquote: "Giacomo Leopardi: 'Nothing lives that were worth thy pains, and the earth deserves not a sigh. Our being is pain and weariness, and the world is mud—nothing else. Be calm.' "

“Rest forever, tired heart.
The final illusion has perished.
The one we believed eternal is gone.
Just like that. Out the door desire
follows hope. Rest forever.
Enough throbbing. Nothing deserves your attention
nor is the earth worth a sigh.
Bitterness and boredom is life,
nothing else ever, and the world is mud.
Quiet now. Despair for the last time.
Fate gives us dying as a gift.
Now turn from the hills, the ugly hidden power
which rules for the common evil
and the infinite vanity of it all.”
― Giacomo Leopardi

I've always found that quote calming. Everyone I've introduced it to reacts in horror.

I really quite enjoyed that. Thank you for posting it.

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We as organic lifeforms will cease to function. We will die and lose our consciousness, and then we shall reemerge ourselves into the state of darkness and nothingness we were experiencing(or not experiencing) an infinite amount of foreseeable time prior before we were. The actions we perform during our life, as well as the thoughts, are universally pointless. We'll have no recollection or feeling of said actions or thoughts after death. We won't be able to look upon them or contemplate them. The memory's of your actions, feelings, and emotions will never come into play again, nor will you care if they do, because you are factually nothing. It's quite identical as if life never occurred for any organic to begin with. We as organics all share something, equality in prenatal, and equality in death; being able to do nothing, and being nothing. ( more specific you'll still be energy of some sort, disassociation of matter, etc.)

Why is it that just because something won't last forever, that therefore that something is pointless? Is only what lasts forever not pointless? Why?

Because action in this life is synonymous with no action; in terms of the result.

[Chad32]

Because action in this life is synonymous with no action; in terms of the result.

That's just demonstrably wrong. Just the existence of life proves that something comes out of actions taken by creatures. Making young is how a species survives. Even when our sun dies, it's still not over for the universe at large. Each life is a page. The story of the human race is a book, and the universe likely has many books written and unwritten, to use a metaphor.

[x2theone2x]

Because action in this life is synonymous with no action; in terms of the result.

That's just demonstrably wrong. Just the existence of life proves that something comes out of actions taken by creatures. Making young is how a species survives. Even when our sun dies, it's still not over for the universe at large. Each life is a page. The story of the human race is a book, and the universe likely has many books written and unwritten, to use a metaphor.

Let's start with the largest concept of area we define our existence in currently, the universe. The universe begins, and the universe ends. I'm not saying it will or won't, probably not from the studies I've read, but humans are naturally wrong quite often. Anyway let's say it begins, it lasts 100 trillion years, it ends "somehow". It factually never even existed. Now take the human, you go through your whole life and you die. Your life, for you, was factually useless, THIS IS FACT. Let's say your life was recorded greatly, that WILL FACTUALLY impact other people for ages to come. Even if you do have an impact, that doesn't mean it's not pointless. The universe from observation at this point serves no purpose from any physicists perspective. All in all if the greatest measurement of what sustaining us serves no purpose, nothing does, FACT. Unless you give it a constraint: The purpose of the legs of a human is for them to run for example.

[Mister Agenda]

We as organic lifeforms will cease to function. We will die and lose our consciousness, and then we shall reemerge ourselves into the state of darkness and nothingness we were experiencing(or not experiencing) an infinite amount of foreseeable time prior before we were. The actions we perform during our life, as well as the thoughts, are universally pointless. We'll have no recollection or feeling of said actions or thoughts after death. We won't be able to look upon them or contemplate them. The memory's of your actions, feelings, and emotions will never come into play again, nor will you care if they do, because you are factually nothing. It's quite identical as if life never occurred for any organic to begin with. We as organics all share something, equality in prenatal, and equality in death; being able to do nothing, and being nothing. ( more specific you'll still be energy of some sort, disassociation of matter, etc.)

Our lives are stories. You know what's pointless? A story without an ending.

[Chad32]

I guess all I can say is that I give myself purpose, and don't worry too much about what will happen when I'm gone.

[Ryantology]

Who is anyone else to decide that it is necessary that my existence serve some greater purpose for it to have a point?

[Mudhammam]

We as organic lifeforms will cease to function. We will die and lose our consciousness, and then we shall reemerge ourselves into the state of darkness and nothingness we were experiencing(or not experiencing) an infinite amount of foreseeable time prior before we were. The actions we perform during our life, as well as the thoughts, are universally pointless. We'll have no recollection or feeling of said actions or thoughts after death. We won't be able to look upon them or contemplate them. The memory's of your actions, feelings, and emotions will never come into play again, nor will you care if they do, because you are factually nothing. It's quite identical as if life never occurred for any organic to begin with. We as organics all share something, equality in prenatal, and equality in death; being able to do nothing, and being nothing. ( more specific you'll still be energy of some sort, disassociation of matter, etc.)

And so your post was totally worthless?

[Rampant.A.I.]

That's just demonstrably wrong. Just the existence of life proves that something comes out of actions taken by creatures. Making young is how a species survives. Even when our sun dies, it's still not over for the universe at large. Each life is a page. The story of the human race is a book, and the universe likely has many books written and unwritten, to use a metaphor.

Let's start with the largest concept of area we define our existence in currently, the universe. The universe begins, and the universe ends. I'm not saying it will or won't, probably not from the studies I've read, but humans are naturally wrong quite often. Anyway let's say it begins, it lasts 100 trillion years, it ends "somehow". It factually never even existed. Now take the human, you go through your whole life and you die. Your life, for you, was factually useless, THIS IS FACT. Let's say your life was recorded greatly, that WILL FACTUALLY impact other people for ages to come. Even if you do have an impact, that doesn't mean it's not pointless. The universe from observation at this point serves no purpose from any physicists perspective. All in all if the greatest measurement of what sustaining us serves no purpose, nothing does, FACT. Unless you give it a constraint: The purpose of the legs of a human is for them to run for example.

Define "fact" and "factually" in this example.

[Angrboda]

I've always found that quote calming. Everyone I've introduced it to reacts in horror.

I found it both beautiful and calming. Thank you.