Even the UN hates the Vatican!

[Rev. Rye]

But the pattern would eventually emerge and a lot sooner.

[Aractus]

Well let them sue afterwards then (presuming they are indeed innocent). Personally I think they should be investigated outside of a country that isn't intent on protecting paedophiles.

No one who is merely suspected of a crime should have action taken against them by their employer unless of course said employer has very good reason to believe the accusations. I do not want to live in a world where anyone suspected of doing something illegal automatically gets fired from their jobs, or in a world where people think that is acceptable.

[là bạn điên]

The UN has said that the Vatican should "immediately remove" all clergy who are known or suspected child abusers.

Suspected? That's ridiculous - every person has the right to the presumption of innocence in most countries, and while I certainly agree that the Vatican should stop providing a safe-harbour for clergy who are child sex abusers, it doesn't mean they should remove people who are "suspected", after all said people could turn around and sue you for wrongful dismissal.

What's of far greater importance is that the Vatican should stop covering up for paedophilias immediately.

I am now in the unenviable position of actually supporting aractacus on this one. The UN makes endless demands of European / American organisations from a neo marxist viewpoint whilst simultaneously ignoring the developing world. Child abuse is rampant amongst Muslim clergy too but you would hear any UN organization condemning them.

Demanding people are removed on unsubstantiated suspicion is abominable and is directly reminiscent of the Marxists states these people wish to impose on all of us.

The UN is rather like the Vatican in that it is Doctrinaire and corrupt. I actually thing that the vatican is actually less corrupt and has more people with honest intentions than the UN (which is more of an insult to the UN than a pat on the back for the Vatican)

[Aractus]

Well yes, the UN does some things that we would support and others that we don't. Every year they tell the USA to end the trade embargo with Cuba (which they should), but the USA wants to live in the past forever. It's almost like if European countries never reconciled with Germany after WWII - could you imagine that?