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RE: Christian conservatives, quick question for you
February 9, 2014 at 9:11 pm
(February 7, 2014 at 10:54 pm)Boris Karloff Wrote: haha I love how conservatives and/or tea partiers think that their guns would somehow give them a fighting chance against the ENTIRE AMERICAN MILITARY equipped with fighter jets, drones, heat-seaking missiles, and so on.
Where did I say that I wanted a gun to declare war on the "ENTIRE AMERICAN MILITARY equipped with fighter jets, drones, heat-seaking (sic) missiles, and so on."? Mine's just for home and personal defense.
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RE: Christian conservatives, quick question for you
February 9, 2014 at 9:22 pm
(February 7, 2014 at 11:55 pm)Lek Wrote: (February 7, 2014 at 10:13 am)Boris Karloff Wrote: So with this mindset, the government should be able to take away rights listed within the Constitution or change them to suit the times, because the government established them in the first place, correct? I'm simply applying your own argument to another circumstance, but the same situation.
Nope. The government is not God. Also, we serve God, but the government was formed to serve us.
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RE: Christian conservatives, quick question for you
February 9, 2014 at 9:41 pm
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(February 9, 2014 at 9:11 pm)A Theist Wrote: Where did I say that I wanted a gun to declare war on the "ENTIRE AMERICAN MILITARY equipped with fighter jets, drones, heat-seaking (sic) missiles, and so on."? Mine's just for home and personal defense.
But your molon labe suggested you were open to the possibilitibility. And, believe me, it's happened before. Just ask Randy Weaver, David Koresh, and the Montana Freedmen.
Come to think about it, given the history of the phrase, from the Spartans of Thermopylae, the Republic of Texas, and Grigoris Afxentiou, I can't think of anyone who used the phrase who ended up on top.
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RE: Christian conservatives, quick question for you
February 9, 2014 at 10:22 pm
Rev. Rye Wrote:Come to think about it, given the history of the phrase, from the Spartans of Thermopylae, the Republic of Texas, and Grigoris Afxentiou, I can't think of anyone who used the phrase who ended up on top.
Did you mean "the Alamo"?
Because the Republic of Texas won that war.
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RE: Christian conservatives, quick question for you
February 9, 2014 at 10:28 pm
(February 9, 2014 at 9:11 pm)A Theist Wrote: (February 7, 2014 at 10:54 pm)Boris Karloff Wrote: haha I love how conservatives and/or tea partiers think that their guns would somehow give them a fighting chance against the ENTIRE AMERICAN MILITARY equipped with fighter jets, drones, heat-seaking missiles, and so on.
Where did I say that I wanted a gun to declare war on the "ENTIRE AMERICAN MILITARY equipped with fighter jets, drones, heat-seaking (sic) missiles, and so on."? Mine's just for home and personal defense. Where did I say I was directly speaking to you?
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RE: Christian conservatives, quick question for you
February 9, 2014 at 11:02 pm
(February 9, 2014 at 10:22 pm)Rahul Wrote: Did you mean "the Alamo"?
Because the Republic of Texas won that war.
But did they last? Ten years later and they were part of the US.
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RE: Christian conservatives, quick question for you
February 9, 2014 at 11:29 pm
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(February 9, 2014 at 11:02 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: But did they last? Ten years later and they were part of the US.
Texas wanted to become part of the US. The population was all US immigrants. Everything worked out the way they wanted it to.
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RE: Christian conservatives, quick question for you
February 10, 2014 at 9:51 am
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(February 9, 2014 at 10:28 pm)Boris Karloff Wrote: (February 9, 2014 at 9:11 pm)A Theist Wrote: Where did I say that I wanted a gun to declare war on the "ENTIRE AMERICAN MILITARY equipped with fighter jets, drones, heat-seaking (sic) missiles, and so on."? Mine's just for home and personal defense. Where did I say I was directly speaking to you? I see. So you weren't actually making a blanket statement implying that the reason Conservatives and Tea Partiers want guns is to take on the military and to overthrow the government. Is that what you're saying?...there's also some liberals and libertarians on this very forum who advocate the right to gun ownership as well. So they're not trying to declare war on the "ENTIRE AMERICAN MILITARY" either, is that right too?
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RE: Christian conservatives, quick question for you
February 10, 2014 at 9:58 pm
(February 10, 2014 at 9:51 am)A Theist Wrote: (February 9, 2014 at 10:28 pm)Boris Karloff Wrote: Where did I say I was directly speaking to you? I see. So you weren't actually making a blanket statement implying that the reason Conservatives and Tea Partiers want guns is to take on the military and to overthrow the government. Is that what you're saying?...there's also some liberals and libertarians on this very forum who advocate the right to gun ownership as well. So they're not trying to declare war on the "ENTIRE AMERICAN MILITARY" either, is that right too? 90% of conservatives I've ever talked to about gun control say one reason they are against it is because they want to be armed against the government because they believe it's becoming more and more like Nazi Germany here in the states.
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RE: Christian conservatives, quick question for you
February 10, 2014 at 10:29 pm
Why is it that nobody ever admits to wanting to be one of the oppressors?
Particularly while they are scrambling to amass as much as possible the tools of oppression, e.g. money and influence.
So how, exactly, does God know that She's NOT a brain in a vat? 
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