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White Men
#41
RE: White Men
The whole concept is flawed anyway. White women vote Republican also. Mitt Romeny won 56% of white female vote. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-c-wi...94354.html Other than that obvious mistake, I'm not really sure what your point is at all.
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#42
RE: White Men
(March 9, 2014 at 9:56 pm)jimmyk2190 Wrote:
(March 9, 2014 at 9:50 pm)Beccs Wrote: I don't blame white men in general for any of that. However, in Western culture it WAS men who prevented women getting the vote for ages. The first country to give women the vote was actually NZ in the late 1800s. That's not all that long ago.

And it was white men, the leaders of European society - not all - who led and perpertuated and profited from the slave trade (while many African tribes also helped out, definitely).

ANd, when you look at the Conservative movement, particularly in the US, it is generally white men who oppose womens' reproductive rights, marriage equality, and immigration.

We had that in Australia for decades - a law whereby only white could immigrate to Aus.

As for, "when people say that obama inherited a mess from bush they are saying that he needs the assistance of white people to govern properly"

Seriously, where the fuck did you get this bullshit from? Obama inherited a frigging mess from Bush and the Repubs have been stonewalling him at every turn, making his job a lot harder and preventing the economy from recovering as quickly as it could have. Certainly, Obama isn't the best president, but the last assertion you make is complete bullshit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLp3qypFY20

A Faux Noise link.

Yeah that's how to answer the points . . .

Playing Cluedo with my mum while I was at Uni:

"You did WHAT?  With WHO?  WHERE???"
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#43
RE: White Men
(March 9, 2014 at 9:55 pm)Minimalist Wrote:
Quote: Obama inherited a frigging mess from Bush

I recall Bill Maher musing that "it takes a while to get the smell of stupid off of the furniture."

Sadly, the smell just got stronger in the House.

Congress and this thread are the reasons I can't believe I don't smoke.
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#44
RE: White Men
(March 9, 2014 at 9:57 pm)Beccs Wrote:
(March 9, 2014 at 9:56 pm)jimmyk2190 Wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLp3qypFY20

A Faux Noise link.

Yeah that's how to answer the points . . .

everything i said is true you just dont like what i have to say i can provide source after source and you will not like it and use nonsense to contradict me.
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#45
RE: White Men
As opposed to the nonsense you were posting...?

(March 9, 2014 at 9:56 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: The whole concept is flawed anyway. White women vote Republican also. Mitt Romeny won 56% of white female vote. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-c-wi...94354.html Other than that obvious mistake, I'm not really sure what your point is at all.

The point is the Unabomber was right.
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#46
RE: White Men
(March 9, 2014 at 9:59 pm)jimmyk2190 Wrote:
(March 9, 2014 at 9:57 pm)Beccs Wrote: A Faux Noise link.

Yeah that's how to answer the points . . .

everything i said is true you just dont like what i have to say i can provide source after source and you will not like it and use nonsense to contradict me.

You sound like a creationist claiming you have evidence to disprove evolution or a theist claiming you have irrefutable evidence for your deity.

"I can provide it but you won't believe it so I'm not going to!"

"Okay, post your evidence"

"No, you won't believe it anyway so why should I waste my time?"

And round and round we go . . .

ROFLOL

Moving on to a relevant conversation.

Playing Cluedo with my mum while I was at Uni:

"You did WHAT?  With WHO?  WHERE???"
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#47
RE: White Men
(March 9, 2014 at 10:02 pm)thesummerqueen Wrote: As opposed to the nonsense you were posting...?

(March 9, 2014 at 9:56 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: The whole concept is flawed anyway. White women vote Republican also. Mitt Romeny won 56% of white female vote. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-c-wi...94354.html Other than that obvious mistake, I'm not really sure what your point is at all.

The point is the Unabomber was right.

aspects of what he had to say

(March 9, 2014 at 10:02 pm)thesummerqueen Wrote: As opposed to the nonsense you were posting...?

(March 9, 2014 at 9:56 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: The whole concept is flawed anyway. White women vote Republican also. Mitt Romeny won 56% of white female vote. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-c-wi...94354.html Other than that obvious mistake, I'm not really sure what your point is at all.

The point is the Unabomber was right.
the unabomber is a violent criminal i do not advocate violence against anybody
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#48
RE: White Men
A more accurate representation of what sector of the population has suffered the least discrimination in American history would be white, HETEROSEXUAL men.

They ^^ have had a privileged ''status,'' and to think otherwise would mean you're not all that familiar with US history.

That said, I don't believe the pendulum should swing in the other direction, and white heterosexual men should be discriminated against. I believe in equal civil rights for all. But, because of how the US has treated certain sectors of the population, it might take some time to forgive and forget.
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#49
RE: White Men
(March 9, 2014 at 11:05 pm)Deidre32 Wrote: A more accurate representation of what sector of the population has suffered the least discrimination in American history would be white, HETEROSEXUAL men.

They ^^ have had a privileged ''status,'' and to think otherwise would mean you're not all that familiar with US history.

That said, I don't believe the pendulum should swing in the other direction, and white heterosexual men should be discriminated against. I believe in equal civil rights for all. But, because of how the US has treated certain sectors of the population, it might take some time to forgive and forget.
i think everybody should read the unabombers manifesto its really good
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#50
RE: White Men
(March 9, 2014 at 11:11 pm)jimmyk2190 Wrote:
(March 9, 2014 at 11:05 pm)Deidre32 Wrote: A more accurate representation of what sector of the population has suffered the least discrimination in American history would be white, HETEROSEXUAL men.

They ^^ have had a privileged ''status,'' and to think otherwise would mean you're not all that familiar with US history.

That said, I don't believe the pendulum should swing in the other direction, and white heterosexual men should be discriminated against. I believe in equal civil rights for all. But, because of how the US has treated certain sectors of the population, it might take some time to forgive and forget.
i think everybody should read the unabombers manifesto its really good

I've read bits of it, it is interesting.
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