Would any of you drive a car made by Darwin's ideas?

[Esquilax]

Misinterpreting abiogenesis as evolution? That's a paddling.

Do you watch BionicDance too? She likes posting that clip from The Simpsons.

Yep, that's what I was trying to evoke, here.

[Chad32]

Do you watch BionicDance too? She likes posting that clip from The Simpsons.

Yep, that's what I was trying to evoke, here.

I started watching her recently. I like her, though she ought to get the hair out of her eyes. I'm not sure why someone would want a hair do like that. Not that it matters, I guess.

[Rampant.A.I.]

My initial thought with this post was, you guys would never use darwinian principles to go to grandma's house- you would never get there.
We would rather not buy a car assembled on friday (or is it monday?) in case there was any shortcuts in it's construction, and yet you think this whole shebang just assembled itself?

I see a huge disconnect betweeen everyday life (including making very complicated machines) and the belief system that has become a dogma.

Ok, serious question for Prof:

Are you making a choice to be stupid? Deliberately, belligerently stupid?

First of all, you seem to have trouble understanding selective adaptation over periods of time like 3.5 million years.

Second, applying Darwinian principles improperly, e.g., Social Darwinism, is disproven pseudoscience.

Third, you haven't responded to a single correction to your blithering ignorant OP, or visited a single link provided for you, for purposes of an education you so obviously lack.

he best you've come up with is rephrasing your OP in different ways, and repeating it like a parrot:

In such a desperately uninspired way, you applied it to giving directions. Which even more clearly underlines your lack of a basic grasp of what you're dismissing.

If this is the extent of your critical thinking skills, you not only show a lack of required ingenuity to be an engineer, but the ability to Profess absolutely nothing but ignorance.

[Simon Moon]

Boy, I haven't has this much mirth in a while. My origional post is based on the origional supposition of Mr. Darwin.

No it wasn't. It was based on a straw man version of evolution based on your ignorance of the subject.

The sad thing is not that you have this ignorance, everyone is ignorant of something, but that you refuse to correct your ignorance.

Your theology has killed your natural sense of curiosity.

I confess I haven't paid much attention to the old fool since I heard about his theory in grade school.

Good thing science does not care about your lack of curiosity and ignorance. Science continues to find more and more evidence, in many fields, confirming evolution.

[tor]

Horses are evolved transport.

[Doubting Thomas]

We all drive cars based on evolutionary theory. We throw out ideas which don't work, and adopt ideas which do work well. As time progresses, the automobile of today looks nothing like the automobile of 100 years ago. The only difference is that automobile designers take the place of natural forces or mutations to effect change. Natural selection also factors in. Know why we don't drive big old heavy muscle cars from the 70's any more? The oil shortage of the 70's made small, economy cars more favorable. Know why the Edsel didn't take off? It couldn't find a niche market, and failed. Ford never reintroduced the Edsel. High gas prices have killed the Hummer, since they're not being made any more. Sure, they're still on the road, but after they're gone they'll be extinct. Natural selection at work.

If we were to drive a car based on biblical principles, we'd all be driving this:



The creator created this car in his own image, and to stray from this design is blasphemy.

[Mister Agenda]

You guys seem to have missed the foundation of Darwin's theory.
That RANDOM changes occured over time.

We didn't miss it so badly as to be the ones to bring cars into it.

Random means "Chance" and chance is the opposite of choice.
Chance is having no intellegence added.

Natural selection is not random. That's why the combination of random variation with natural selection can result in the superficial appearance of design.

The development of all tech. is the result of applied intellegence.
Even the Pinto.

Yep. Do you think that is news of some sort to anyone here?

You can call development that we do "Evolution" but that is not what darwin proposed.

Evolution is 'change over time'. In that sense it applies perfectly to the development of automobiles. The theory of evolution explains biological evolution; which has nothing really to do with cars. Maybe you should leave cars out of discussions of biological evolution in future.

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I now understand.
I should have promoted natural selection to the status of a god, making it's decisions on what it wants to keep and what it wants to throw out. Very good.
You have gotten rid of that pesky god you didn't like, and gotten a new one instead.
Well done.

Do you get paid double for posts that are especially inane? If so, well done.

Natural selection is a process. It is not a being. It is not a god. It doesn't make decisions. It doesn't want anything. We don't worship it. It's just what happens when something that reproduces with some variation is in an environment that affects whether a variation is more likely to reproduce or not.

Try to wrap your brain around this: it is actually possible for people to not believe in any gods at all, not substitute anything for them, and not worship anything.

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Boy, I haven't has this much mirth in a while. My origional post is based on the origional supposition of Mr. Darwin.

Yes, you connected a biological theory to car manufacture. And you still think that was clever. I'm very much afraid you are getting the short end of the stick, mirth-wise; you're just not aware enough to tell.

I confess I haven't paid much attention to the old fool since I heard about his theory in grade school.

No kidding. I take it grade school was a VERY long time ago.

As for constructing a god out of natural selection, anything that makes decisions is not a process.

Natural selection doesn't make decisions.

By necessity, decisionmaking requires a mind.

Natural selection doesn't make decisions.

A god would have a mind.
Therefore your god is natural selection.

Natural selection doesn't make decisions. Gravity doesn't decide which rocks will roll downhill. Clouds don't decide where to rain.

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My initial thought with this post was, you guys would never use darwinian principles to go to grandma's house- you would never get there.

In these days of electronic navigation, an app that uses 'Darwinian principles' to optimize routes might be very useful.

We would rather not buy a car assembled on friday (or is it monday?) in case there was any shortcuts in it's construction, and yet you think this whole shebang just assembled itself?

Assembling themselves one of the defining traits of living things. Horses assemble themselves, you assembled yourself, cars don't assemlbe themselves, which is one way you can tell they're not alive. Our cells are full of molecular widgets assembling themselves.

I see a huge disconnect betweeen everyday life (including making very complicated machines) and the belief system that has become a dogma.

What the theory of evolution is FOR is to explain the diversity of life. It does that better than any competing theory. Anything else it may do, as in the links generously provided by others, which you've ignored, is gravy. You're like someone complaing that a saw doesn't do a very good job of hammering nails. You're THAT funny. If I couldn't see that at least you can spell pretty well, I'd feel bad for finding the depth of your fooishness so funny, but as you're not actually impaired, I'll enjoy.

[Ryantology]

You guys seem to have missed the foundation of Darwin's theory.
That RANDOM changes occured over time.
Random means "Chance" and chance is the opposite of choice.
Chance is having no intellegence added.
The development of all tech. is the result of applied intellegence.
Even the Pinto.
You can call development that we do "Evolution" but that is not what darwin proposed.

We are only waiting for you to admit that you are too stupid to understand that technology and biology are analogous in some ways while not being even remotely identical processes.

We would rather not buy a car assembled on friday (or is it monday?) in case there was any shortcuts in it's construction, and yet you think this whole shebang just assembled itself?

If your god really did create this universe, I would have to say that I trust car manufacturers a great deal more because they've let me down a great deal less.

[SteelCurtain]

He's been embarrassed. He won't come back to this.

[Mudhammam]

He's been embarrassed. He won't come back to this.

Zombies are not always so easily taken down.