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17 virgins
December 10, 2009 at 9:29 am
So you get 17 virgins in heaven if you have been a good muslim.
What the hell are you going to do with 17 virgins?
I can hear all you dudes now, "Fu*K 'em!"
Yeah yeah. Have you ever had a sexual expiriance with a virgin involved? I have. The virgin was me.
And I was terrible!
I don't know about all of you, but I much rather have 17 sexually experianced women.
Experianced bi-sexual women.
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RE: 17 virgins
December 10, 2009 at 9:31 am
I thought it was 71?
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RE: 17 virgins
December 10, 2009 at 9:39 am
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72 actually.
(December 10, 2009 at 9:29 am)Dotard Wrote: So you get 17 virgins in heaven if you have been a good muslim.
What the hell are you going to do with 17 virgins?
I can hear all you dudes now, "Fu*K 'em!"
Yeah yeah. Have you ever had a sexual expiriance with a virgin involved? I have. The virgin was me.
And I was terrible!
I don't know about all of you, but I much rather have 17 sexually experianced women.
Experianced bi-sexual women.
I wonder if that means you only get to have them once each?
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RE: 17 virgins
December 10, 2009 at 9:44 am
I know that in the Islam it's stressed that woman have to be a virgin or they're unclean, dirty. There's such a stigma on virginity that I imagine people fool (And I use the term loosely) themselves into being attracted to it. So, essentially they don't know any better and accept it as normal and desirable.
If a woman doesn't bleed on her wedding day she could be kill, which is a horrible standard considering not all women will even if they are virgins.
Kinda like circumcision. Sex is actually better which a non-circumcised penis but the stigma on getting your son circumcised in religion has made society accept it as a norm and a desirable aspect of how men should be.
I find the notion atrocious and repulsive in both cases.
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RE: 17 virgins
December 10, 2009 at 9:57 am
(December 10, 2009 at 9:31 am)Eilonnwy Wrote: I thought it was 71?
Number vary per explanation but 72 is the most common. It is actually not supported in the Qur'an, but the number comes from the Hadith. The Qur'an says "Verily, for the Muttaqun [righteous], there will be a success (paradise); gardens and grapeyards; and young full-breasted (mature) maidens of equal age; and a full cup (of wine)" (An-Naba 78:31-34)".
In the Hadith in the collection commonly referred to as the Sunan al-Tirmidhi says, "The least [reward] for the people of Heaven is 80,000 servants and 72 wives, over which stands a dome of pearls, aquamarine and ruby." (Hadith number 2,562)
Combine the two, and presto, 72 virgins.
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RE: 17 virgins
December 10, 2009 at 11:07 am
Hassan I. Sabbah had a better idea. He would get his prospective assasins to believe in paradise by actually creating it on earth. He would get them hopped up on hash then transport them into a lovely garden where they would be served by virgins he placed in the garden.
Quote:But the twist of the assassins was that they drugged the person to simulate a "dying" to later have them awaken in a garden flowing with wine and served a sumptuous feast by virgins. The supplicant was then convinced he was in Heaven and that the cult's leader, Hassan-i-Sabah, was a representative of the divinity and that all of his orders should be followed, even unto death. This legend derives from Marco Polo, who visited Alamut after it fell to the Mongols in the thirteenth century.
http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Assassins
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RE: 17 virgins
December 10, 2009 at 11:25 am
(December 10, 2009 at 9:44 am)Eilonnwy Wrote: I know that in the Islam it's stressed that woman have to be a virgin or they're unclean, dirty. There's such a stigma on virginity that I imagine people fool (And I use the term loosely) themselves into being attracted to it. So, essentially they don't know any better and accept it as normal and desirable.
If a woman doesn't bleed on her wedding day she could be kill, which is a horrible standard considering not all women will even if they are virgins.
Kinda like circumcision. Sex is actually better which a non-circumcised penis but the stigma on getting your son circumcised in religion has made society accept it as a norm and a desirable aspect of how men should be.
I find the notion atrocious and repulsive in both cases.
+1 bottom line I guess some guys will do anything for a virgin
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RE: 17 virgins
December 10, 2009 at 11:51 am
I was a virgin once. Loosing it wasn't that much fun. I'm surprised I ever had sex again.
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RE: 17 virgins
December 10, 2009 at 12:08 pm
(December 10, 2009 at 11:51 am)binny Wrote: I was a virgin once. Loosing it wasn't that much fun. I'm surprised I ever had sex again.
Can't have been any less fun than this one time where I didn't lose it.
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RE: 17 virgins
December 10, 2009 at 12:11 pm
(December 10, 2009 at 12:08 pm)LukeMC Wrote: (December 10, 2009 at 11:51 am)binny Wrote: I was a virgin once. Loosing it wasn't that much fun. I'm surprised I ever had sex again.
Can't have been any less fun than this one time where I didn't lose it.
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