Pull up a chair

[pocaracas]

Disc, you are aware that my wife possesses a quality which is not apparent in any god, right?

[discipulus]

Disc, you are aware that my wife possesses a quality which is not apparent in any god, right?

What quality is that? A body of flesh and bone?

[Whateverist]

If atheism is a faith bald is a hair colour.

True but whether we have faith in anything is a different question than whether atheism is a kind of faith. (Of course it isn't.)

But atheists as people have faith in a great number of things. We have faith in the love of our loved ones. We have faith in the reasonableness and therefore good intentions of others (though that faith regularly gets sorely tested). Most especially we have faith in our insights and talents. We have no proof of their value, but they're ours so we put them forward anyway. Or do we think faith can only have to do with god-belief?

[Rampant.A.I.]

Tangibility?

[JuliaL]

Sure I have faith.
My faith is that I do exist as a conscious individual. That the universe I experience will act consistently in the same fashion in (what I expect will be) the future in the same way that it (appears to have) acted in the past.

You, I believe are a non-player character in what could be my simulation.

So? Can you offer evidence in my simulation that your God exists?
I have lots of evidence that historically scammers have used claims of said existence to grab influence and resources. I find that evidence compelling.

[Whateverist]

Maybe you should have started with a definition of faith in a broader sense than its religious usage. There is no reason to fear not having an underpinning rational basis for everything you trust in. We are not computer programs. We are the mammals that evolved to the point we could design and build computers. But like other critter we do not make every decision by rational process. That would be an absurd view of humanity.

[Jackalope]

I have faith.

I have faith that the bar stool under my ass won't degenerate into quantum particles while I'm sitting on it, I have faith the the tasty ale I'm enjoying will continue to be agreeably tasty, I have faith that I will shortly be inebriated.

Furthermore, I have faith that equivocating between faith in the supernatural and faith based on inductive processes and empiricism is utter bullshit.

[fr0d0]

Furthermore, I have faith that equivocating between faith in the supernatural and faith based on inductive processes and empiricism is utter bullshit.

Congratulations, you made it to level 2

[truthBtold]

Maybe the stumbling block here, is the word "Faith".
Since it is so foundational to Christianity.

What if the word was "trust" instead?
Or, "Belief" (well -that may be too touchy).

Who doesn't exercise faith every day?....you drive you car, ride a bike, fly in a plane, walk to get the mail.
You trust (based on whatever..) that the rewards outweigh the risk.
THAT is faith.
As far as we use the English language -all these words are interchangeable.

R u mad?? every day normal natural things does not take faith.. faith is for Christians because u dont know if a fairy tail is real.. so u hope and pray,, that requires that thing called faith..

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I have faith.

I have faith that the bar stool under my ass won't degenerate into quantum particles while I'm sitting on it, I have faith the the tasty ale I'm enjoying will continue to be agreeably tasty, I have faith that I will shortly be inebriated.

Furthermore, I have faith that equivocating between faith in the supernatural and faith based on inductive processes and empiricism is utter bullshit.

The first one will if u sheeeet ur pants

[heathendegenerate]

nevermind.