[split] 9/11 Conspiracy Theories

[Pippy]

Not exactly, the hideous day star might be primary, but without the sun-in-the-rock we would be a lot colder, no?

Who's David Icke?

[Edwardo Piet]

David Icke is truly the most sane man on the planet:

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=David+Icke

EvF

[Pippy]

That's awesome. I am gonna use that some time, just what I've always wanted to say in some of my diatribes. There should be an even easier one for Firefox and the other browsers that have it in the task bar.

Let me google that for you... Brilliant!

[downbeatplumb]

Of course David Icke makes sense, silly

He is wise beyond his years...

Wouldn't it be awesome if HE was the reptilian overlord under the guise of the crackpot conspiracy theorist because he knew that it was the only occupation where he could literally communicate his plans to topple the existing regime to the public without being suspected by the regime as being a threat because of all of his reptilian overlord theory shit.

I remember when he used to do the news.
He used to be our areas Ron Burgondy.

Then one day put on a turquoise track suit and declared he was the second coming of christ. That was a strange day.

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All I'm saying is that's the easy way out.

Same as terrorists. "Oh they're just bad guys, like in the movies". That is a oversimplification of the truth, which in that case would involve injustice and hatred and opportunity.

We are much more the same than we are different as humans.

'American revolutionaries' were classed as terrorists by the British Empire.
'No taxation without representation' do you guys still believe the war was over that?

[Pippy]

I can't speak for the majority of americans, and I don't, but no the war wasn't about that. It was about setting up a new world that tried to do away with the class and caste systems. But paying England tax for nothing in return was not appreciated I would assume.

Whether you're a terrorist or a revolutionary depends on who wins.

What do they tell you guys the revolution was about over there? How is that part of history treated? I am curious to know what you think, as I have never really considered the British position... Americans hold it in high regard, but at least 80% have no idea what it meant, and how it affected their lives today. It's all been hollywood-ized over here...

But there are some of us that understand what they were trying to achieve with every man being a sovereign, and a high level of human rights. We know that they aren't rights we are granted that we try to protect, but more responsibilities we have to others... But yeah, 9 out of 10 Americans would just look at you when you talked about their history and blink and blink...

Blah,
-Pip

[downbeatplumb]

I can't speak for the majority of americans, and I don't, but no the war wasn't about that. It was about setting up a new world that tried to do away with the class and caste systems. But paying England tax for nothing in return was not appreciated I would assume.

Whether you're a terrorist or a revolutionary depends on who wins.

What do they tell you guys the revolution was about over there? How is that part of history treated? I am curious to know what you think, as I have never really considered the British position... Americans hold it in high regard, but at least 80% have no idea what it meant, and how it affected their lives today. It's all been hollywood-ized over here...

But there are some of us that understand what they were trying to achieve with every man being a sovereign, and a high level of human rights. We know that they aren't rights we are granted that we try to protect, but more responsibilities we have to others... But yeah, 9 out of 10 Americans would just look at you when you talked about their history and blink and blink...

Blah,
-Pip

Many did fight for the above ideals, but the real reason was greed.

The British Empire had signed a treaty with the indian nations, (the treaty of Fort Stanwix 1768), that drew a definitive line at the edge of the British Empire, meaning no further expansion west by the settlers.

This also meant that the settlers couldnt steal more land or plunder the minerals, including GOLD.

There it was, all that land and all those resources, right next door and they couldnt take them because of a piece of paper signed on their behalf by a distant monarch thousands of miles away.

So Americas first war was about minerals and land, justfied with some flowery language.

Start as you mean to go on thats what I say.

[Pippy]

Yeah, I tried to trace a line back to the start of America's proud histroy of "losing the wars it wins", and made it all the way back to the second. 1812 seemed to be the start of Americas overall foreign policy, and it made me laugh that it went so far back.