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WLC is getting old
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WLC is getting old
Doesn't anyone else notice that the only argument WLC uses EVER goes like this?
1. If God doesn't exist X doesn't exist.
2. X does exist.
3. Therefore God exists.

Every argument I seen from him goes like this.
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#2
RE: WLC is getting old
It's not much different from Jason Lisle and his constant presupposition drum beating. He claims that all intelligence come from God. We have intelligence, therefore God exists. What these idiots never seem to be able to point out is HOW we can't have X without God giving it to us.

It's a sure bet that when a Christian uses presupposition they've totally run out of arguments. Presupposition is just a circular argument dipped in shit.
Christian apologetics is the art of rolling a dog turd in sugar and selling it as a donut.
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#3
RE: WLC is getting old
Well, Bill Craig has always loved syllogisms, because they are simple, easy to understand, and it is very easy to make them look valid and logically water tight, even though they quite often aren't.

It doesn't take a minute to propose a syllogism such as the the kalam cosmological argument, but it takes quite some time to refute it and explain why it is incoherent.
I don't think that Bill Craig is getting old at all - he is just an expert at exploiting the format of a formal debate, and syllogisms are great for making an effective gish gallop.
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RE: WLC is getting old
(March 21, 2014 at 10:09 am)Modler Wrote: I don't think that Bill Craig is getting old at all

I disagree. We're all getting older ever day we live. Wink

In terms of the manner in which the world "old" is being used - the way I read it is "WLC is getting tiresome" - then yes. He uses the same arguments over and over no matter how many times they're refuted or proved false.

As a side note, this thread came up in my New Posts feed right up the Fred Phelps thread and I thought for a minute this was going to be a thread talking about how old WLC is getting and how far off his imminent death will be. Angel
Teenaged X-Files obsession + Bermuda Triangle episode + Self-led school research project = Atheist.
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RE: WLC is getting old
(March 21, 2014 at 10:20 am)Clueless Morgan Wrote:
(March 21, 2014 at 10:09 am)Modler Wrote: I don't think that Bill Craig is getting old at all
I disagree. We're all getting older ever day we live. Wink
True. Until judgement day when we will all be eaten by Carl the Big Mean Bunny Tongue

(March 21, 2014 at 10:20 am)Clueless Morgan Wrote: In terms of the manner in which the world "old" is being used - the way I read it is "WLC is getting tiresome" - then yes. He uses the same arguments over and over no matter how many times they're refuted or proved false.
I didn't read it that way, but I agree.
But his arguments have been tiresome for the last 10 years - what really amazes me about WLC, is how he persuades all those otherwise clever and rational people to debate him.
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