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Bill Maher Rips WalMart
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RE: Bill Maher Rips WalMart
(April 6, 2014 at 7:17 pm)Rampant.A.I. Wrote:
(April 6, 2014 at 6:46 pm)Heywood Wrote: Suppose that tomorrow, every Walmart shuttered it doors and laid of all its employees......would the world be better off or worse off?

Well, every single employee is already on federal aid, so I doubt we'd really notice a difference.

If the companies can't pay their employees enough to live, working full time, they shouldn't be in buisiness.

The economic hit a lot of rural and other areas would take is due to Walmart's buisiness practices: running small buisiness into the ground, so there's no alternative for many to shopping or working there.

It's a measure of how badly they screwed up the economy of an area, and how deplorable their buisiness practices are.

People have more goods in the Walmart Era then they did in the Mom and Pop era.

I just bought some 60 watt equivalent LED lightbulbs at 5.88 each at Walmart. At a Mom and Pop shop they would be at least twice that price.
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RE: Bill Maher Rips WalMart
Cheap Chinese-made shit brought to you by slave labor.
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#13
RE: Bill Maher Rips WalMart
(April 6, 2014 at 10:02 pm)Heywood Wrote:
(April 6, 2014 at 7:17 pm)Rampant.A.I. Wrote: Well, every single employee is already on federal aid, so I doubt we'd really notice a difference.

If the companies can't pay their employees enough to live, working full time, they shouldn't be in buisiness.

The economic hit a lot of rural and other areas would take is due to Walmart's buisiness practices: running small buisiness into the ground, so there's no alternative for many to shopping or working there.

It's a measure of how badly they screwed up the economy of an area, and how deplorable their buisiness practices are.

People have more goods in the Walmart Era then they did in the Mom and Pop era.

I just bought some 60 watt equivalent LED lightbulbs at 5.88 each at Walmart. At a Mom and Pop shop they would be at least twice that price.

In all honesty, I'd rather pay some extra money for quality products that likely keep someone in my own country employed than some cheap product that will send money to China.
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RE: Bill Maher Rips WalMart
(April 6, 2014 at 11:20 am)Bad Writer Wrote: Isn't it true that they actually teach their employees how to take advantage of welfare, giving them the expectation that while they give them the first half of their pittance that Uncle Sam will hand out the rest?

Not sure about Wal*Mart but I know polygamous FLDS families do this. Except that the women don't work, they just sign up for welfare calling themselves single mothers. Dodgy
Teenaged X-Files obsession + Bermuda Triangle episode + Self-led school research project = Atheist.
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RE: Bill Maher Rips WalMart
(April 6, 2014 at 10:23 pm)Beccs Wrote: In all honesty, I'd rather pay some extra money for quality products that likely keep someone in my own country employed than some cheap product that will send money to China.

What is the difference between paying some extra money to keep white people who live in your neighborhood employed instead of blacks who live in the next neighborhood over and the statement you just made?

You can equivocate and say you are discriminating on based on a persons citizenship or membership in a community and not the color of their skin.....but your discrimination has the exact same effect as if you were discriminating because of their skin color.
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RE: Bill Maher Rips WalMart
(April 6, 2014 at 10:40 pm)Heywood Wrote:
(April 6, 2014 at 10:23 pm)Beccs Wrote: In all honesty, I'd rather pay some extra money for quality products that likely keep someone in my own country employed than some cheap product that will send money to China.

What is the difference between paying some extra money to keep white people who live in your neighborhood employed instead of blacks who live in the next neighborhood over and the statement you just made?

You can equivocate and say you are discriminating on based on a persons citizenship or membership in a community and not the color of their skin.....but your discrimination has the exact same effect as if you were discriminating because of their skin color.

So the only counter you have to my statement is a not-so-subtle accusation of racism.

Wow.

How sad.
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RE: Bill Maher Rips WalMart
(April 6, 2014 at 10:43 pm)Beccs Wrote:
(April 6, 2014 at 10:40 pm)Heywood Wrote: What is the difference between paying some extra money to keep white people who live in your neighborhood employed instead of blacks who live in the next neighborhood over and the statement you just made?

You can equivocate and say you are discriminating on based on a persons citizenship or membership in a community and not the color of their skin.....but your discrimination has the exact same effect as if you were discriminating because of their skin color.

So the only counter you have to my statement is a not-so-subtle accusation of racism.

Wow.

How sad.

I'm not trying to insult you. I'm trying to point out that a "Buy American" attitude is effectively racism.
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#18
RE: Bill Maher Rips WalMart
(April 6, 2014 at 11:45 pm)Heywood Wrote:
(April 6, 2014 at 10:43 pm)Beccs Wrote: So the only counter you have to my statement is a not-so-subtle accusation of racism.

Wow.

How sad.

I'm not trying to insult you. You probably didn't even know you were being racist. I'm trying to point out that a "Buy American" attitude is effectively racism.

I wasn't being racist and the claim that I was is a strawman. It's an attempt to make me back away from my sytatement by putting a claim of racism where it doesn't belong.
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RE: Bill Maher Rips WalMart
(April 6, 2014 at 11:47 pm)Beccs Wrote:
(April 6, 2014 at 11:45 pm)Heywood Wrote: I'm not trying to insult you. You probably didn't even know you were being racist. I'm trying to point out that a "Buy American" attitude is effectively racism.

I wasn't being racist and the claim that I was is a strawman. It's an attempt to make me back away from my sytatement by putting a claim of racism where it doesn't belong.

Its not a strawman because you weren't making an argument. You rendered an opinion. I then argued that your opinion is effectively a racist one.
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RE: Bill Maher Rips WalMart
(April 7, 2014 at 12:12 am)Heywood Wrote:
(April 6, 2014 at 11:47 pm)Beccs Wrote: I wasn't being racist and the claim that I was is a strawman. It's an attempt to make me back away from my sytatement by putting a claim of racism where it doesn't belong.

Its not a strawman because you weren't making an argument. You rendered an opinion. I then argued that your opinion is effectively a racist one.

As opposed to, say, a nationalist one?
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