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RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH?
April 6, 2014 at 9:28 pm
(April 6, 2014 at 9:14 am)professor Wrote: Ryan, what you quoted in Hosea was a prophesy. Men did it.
The Amalekites were constantly attacking Israel, they were also genetically linked to the giants of the pre-flood world whom God destroyed (there were giants in the earth in those days and AFTERWARD- the offspring of the Nephelem (fallen angels).
Again, a satanically corrupted genetic line.
Interestingly, in our day what are the scientists playing with?
Genetics.
Any excuses to justify infanticide and genocide at the hands of your deity, huh?
Playing Cluedo with my mum while I was at Uni:
"You did WHAT? With WHO? WHERE???"
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RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH?
April 6, 2014 at 9:39 pm
(April 6, 2014 at 9:28 pm)Beccs Wrote: (April 6, 2014 at 9:14 am)professor Wrote: Ryan, what you quoted in Hosea was a prophesy. Men did it.
The Amalekites were constantly attacking Israel, they were also genetically linked to the giants of the pre-flood world whom God destroyed (there were giants in the earth in those days and AFTERWARD- the offspring of the Nephelem (fallen angels).
Again, a satanically corrupted genetic line.
Interestingly, in our day what are the scientists playing with?
Genetics.
Any excuses to justify infanticide and genocide at the hands of your deity, huh? I love it when they get this desperate. Instead of facing the reality that they're worshiping a non-existing evil figure, they make profound stretches to make ends meet.
And I have no idea what the ever-so-beneficial study of genetics has to do with any of this.
PM me if you know where this is from "...knees in the breeze" and don't look it up!!
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RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH?
April 7, 2014 at 12:07 am
(April 6, 2014 at 12:54 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: (April 6, 2014 at 9:14 am)professor Wrote: The Amalekites were constantly attacking Israel, they were also genetically linked to the giants of the pre-flood world whom God destroyed (there were giants in the earth in those days and AFTERWARD- the offspring of the Nephelem (fallen angels).
This is rich.
If you believe the flood narrative is fact - we are ALL descended from one man: Noah. If the Amalekites had the blood of Nephelim, then so do we all - including the Isrealites, and including you.
Do you even think through your ad hoc assertions before making them?
They get this shit from some seminary-instructed half-wit with no real accredited education who got his preaching certificate and immediately began creating more gullible mindless drones.
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RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH?
April 7, 2014 at 12:22 am
The last I heard on the subject there is utterly no archaeological evidence that any one known as the "Amalekites" ever existed....outside of the fertile mind of whoever wrote the fucking bible, that is.
They are as real as Ewoks.
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RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH?
April 7, 2014 at 9:32 am
(April 5, 2014 at 8:35 pm)professor Wrote: Yeah, we is all brainwashed dumb folk.
Cain't help ourselves.
When someone said we Christians are all brainwashed, Barry McGuire (eve of destruction song) replied, -
the difference is we have CHOSEN Who we want to wash our brains........
Yes! You certainly did. Thanks for being honest.
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RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH?
April 7, 2014 at 10:58 am
(This post was last modified: April 7, 2014 at 10:59 am by RobbyPants.)
(April 6, 2014 at 9:10 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Let me give the classic answer, since no one has mentioned it yet.
- Does God tell us not to kill? No. He tells us not to murder. Kill : lawful taking of life. Murder : unlawful taking of life
- Does God kill? Yes
- Why doesn't he have to follow the no-killing rule? Because there isn't one
What makes the killing lawful or unlawful? Who decides that?
If God is the sole deciding factor of when one can or cannot kill, then how do we know he can't decide when it's appropriate to lie or not lie?
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Why do Christians trust YHWH?
April 7, 2014 at 11:08 am
(This post was last modified: April 7, 2014 at 11:09 am by Rampant.A.I..)
(April 6, 2014 at 9:10 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: (April 6, 2014 at 12:10 am)RobbyPants Wrote:
- Does God tell us not to kill?
- Does God kill?
- Why doesn't he have to follow the no-killing rule?
Let me give the classic answer, since no one has mentioned it yet.
- Does God tell us not to kill? No. He tells us not to murder. Kill : lawful taking of life. Murder : unlawful taking of life
- Does God kill? Yes
- Why doesn't he have to follow the no-killing rule? Because there isn't one
(April 5, 2014 at 7:59 pm)Rampant.A.I. Wrote: Well it's God, and since all morality comes from God, God doesn't have to behave morally and is still moral!
See? Christian circular logic solves everything! Just add -because God and anything you like becomes true!
Typical answer from a thoughtless morons perspective. Ignorance is the stance of some atheists, and rampant is clearly more ignorant than most.
That's odd, you still don't seem to be able to support anything you say with argument or evidence, and yet believe throwing a tantrum with accusations of ignorance instead of actually responding makes you appear any less ignorant.
Do you have an explanation for why God doesn't have to follow the his own rules other than <Because God>?
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RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH?
April 7, 2014 at 11:31 am
(This post was last modified: April 7, 2014 at 11:38 am by fr0d0.)
(April 7, 2014 at 10:58 am)RobbyPants Wrote: (April 6, 2014 at 9:10 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Let me give the classic answer, since no one has mentioned it yet.
- Does God tell us not to kill? No. He tells us not to murder. Kill : lawful taking of life. Murder : unlawful taking of life
- Does God kill? Yes
- Why doesn't he have to follow the no-killing rule? Because there isn't one
What makes the killing lawful or unlawful? Who decides that?
If God is the sole deciding factor of when one can or cannot kill, then how do we know he can't decide when it's appropriate to lie or not lie?
1. People mostly, as it's their law.
2. The truth is the deciding factor. God is bound by logic too. In the Christian/ Abrahamic framework humans have an inbuilt moral sense. So you can know yourself (mental instability etc excepted).
(April 7, 2014 at 11:08 am)Rampant.A.I. Wrote: That's odd, you still don't seem to be able to support anything you say with argument or evidence, and yet believe throwing a tantrum with accusations of ignorance instead of actually responding makes you appear any less ignorant.
Do you have an explanation for why God doesn't have to follow the his own rules other than <Because God>?
1. What's odd is the fact that you wouldn't know. You've never addressed anything I've ever said let alone engage me in conversation to find out. I've challenged you twice so far and ...nothing. If the label fits...
2. God follows the rules of his existence. If you want to butcher your own interpretation and believe in that then be my guest. If you'd like to actually address the subject I'll be waiting..
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RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH?
April 7, 2014 at 11:51 am
(April 7, 2014 at 11:31 am)fr0d0 Wrote: God follows the rules of his existence.
Is this meant to mean anything in particular or is it just word salad?
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RE: Why do Christians trust YHWH?
April 7, 2014 at 11:59 am
(April 7, 2014 at 11:31 am)fr0d0 Wrote: 1. People mostly, as it's their law.
So, if we, as people get rid of any laws against killing, then there will be no murder, and it won't be morally wrong to do it?
(April 7, 2014 at 11:31 am)fr0d0 Wrote: 2. The truth is the deciding factor. God is bound by logic too. In the Christian/ Abrahamic framework humans have an inbuilt moral sense. So you can know yourself (mental instability etc excepted).
So, anything that cannot be objectively proven is still up for debate then, correct? If we can't prove God is telling the truth on any one thing, there will still be a trust inherent. There's no way to know that God is telling the truth at any given point unless what he says jives with what we can observe.
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