Onward Christian Sol... Rapists?

[Zen Badger]

Sorry for the delay folks I had a beautiful Easter dinner with my friends and family. Jesus has risen! Purely outstanding! Perhaps I am completely naive as this is my first atheist forum, but I don't really understand the outward name calling. Is it customary on this site to make wild assertions of a persons character or purpose? Should I, in return, be as offensive to sound or appear to have more conviction? Folks, unless you haven't learned yet, just because your louder, angrier, aggressive, or treating, doesn't make you right. I've sat through too many conferences, meetings, or events to be swayed by other's agendas. No matter how passionate!

What is so promising or what is the compelling benefit a person would gain from being an atheist? Why am I inferior and you are superior?

You brazenly state that we are amoral arseholes for not believing in your invisible sky fairy and then you accuse us of name calling.

I see I'm going to have to invest in a mil spec irony meter.

There are no benefits to being an atheist, apart from the money saved by not giving it to the thieving cunts in frocks that infest the churches like maggots.

It is simply the inescapeable conclusion you arrive at when you think about the universe without the blinkers of religion installed.

[Sid]

Jesus has risen!

My dick rose this morning....which is more than fucking jesus ever did.

Now that was blessed!

Well, this was a very short lived experience/experiment and the colors you all have displayed are extremely revealing but most of all disappointing. I am no different than any of you and make no claims of being better, more refined, educated or intelligent. I pray that any or all of you to feel the love I do from Our Lord.

Thank you for taking a moment out of your day to exchange thoughts and comments. God Bless, and best wishes.Sincerely!

[Faith No More]

It's hilarious that you behave like a dick and then act indignant at people treating you like a dick, all while claiming they have the character problem. I couldn't be more insulting than you if I tried.

Your inferiority has nothing to do with not being an atheist. It's because you're an asshole.

[Tartarus Sauce]

Is it customary on this site to make wild assertions of a persons character or purpose?

Like that bullshit you pulled on your last post?

You seemed to make the assumption that it was the norm the moment you stepped in.

Or is this how you usually treat people?

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My dick rose this morning....which is more than fucking jesus ever did.

Now that was blessed!

I am no different than any of you and make no claims of being better, more refined, educated or intelligent.

You did, but it was just not stated outright. You claimed that atheism inevitably leads to amorality and that one must believe in god in order to discern right from wrong.

[Sid]

Yes, I most assuredly pointed out that man is flawed and when left to their own devices have tendencies towards sin, or amoral behaviors. I NEVER made any such claim you had to believe in God to discern right from wrong. Nonetheless, I posted because, yet again, a story regarding a religious cult gone wrong points the finger of hate toward any and all religion. But let me point out the fact that many more atrocities are carried out in secular society, go ahead and do your diligence on public school systems, impoverished countries with rogue governments, crime ridden pockets of cartels and human trafficking, and you will find countless examples of Godless people doing much worse and on a grander scale. Am I ashamed of Churches with scandals, cover ups, and less than impressive apologies, of course. That's inexcusable. But that's not what Jesus stood for. Humans are flawed. I follow Jesus. not you, not any of you, we have proven ourselves unworthy to follow!

[Rampant.A.I.]

If you removed any form of moral compass which, coincidentally, atheists do not do. We have our own moral code, constructed from things a little more firm and reasonable than "magic man sez not to, not because he dislikes rape, but because he only wants us to have sex when we're married."

As a rather disturbing consequence though, you have inadvertently revealed the fact that you consider the rape of underage girls to be a pleasant thing, and that the only thing stopping you from doing so is that, indeed, magic man is threatening you if you do. We atheists don't consider rape and pedophilia a "good night out," but you clearly do.

And what wise man in today's society, or your atheist belief system, sets such moral standards? Seeing that MAN is infinitely flawed, what, or more precisely, "who" is king of the jungle for you? Politics? Science? The Courts? You Father in law? Old man Charles from down the street? It would seem to me the promise of being an atheist should lead me to a conclusion that whatever is good for me, no one else matters. I will anticipate replies of how generous and loving and charitable ya'll are. But why would you? You have no Almighty watching, so screw the next guy, and take what's yours. And hurry up because you only live here for a short time, and you don't have an eternity waiting for you, So, go get while the getting is good.

By the way, have a Happy and Blessed Easter!

Wow. You sound like one hell of a creep. "God is watching, so I can't do what I'd like to, I have to pretend to have morals by following a code."



You don't see how anyone could behave morally without a parent figure watching? Where, exactly, do you think morals come from? God didn't teach you morality. Your parents did. And from the looks of it, not very well.

The bible endorses rape, stoning women to death for being raped, the murder of children, and slavery. If you do not, it is clear "all morality" does not "come from the bible."

[Losty]

Yes, I most assuredly pointed out that man is flawed and when left to their own devices have tendencies towards sin, or amoral behaviors. I NEVER made any such claim you had to believe in God to discern right from wrong. Nonetheless, I posted because, yet again, a story regarding a religious cult gone wrong points the finger of hate toward any and all religion. But let me point out the fact that many more atrocities are carried out in secular society, go ahead and do your diligence on public school systems, impoverished countries with rogue governments, crime ridden pockets of cartels and human trafficking, and you will find countless examples of Godless people doing much worse and on a grander scale. Am I ashamed of Churches with scandals, cover ups, and less than impressive apologies, of course. That's inexcusable. But that's not what Jesus stood for. Humans are flawed. I follow Jesus. not you, not any of you, we have proven ourselves unworthy to follow!

Meh I don't really care who or what you follow. My general rule in life is don't be a dick. I dislike people who are assholes equally regardless of religious affiliation.

[Tartarus Sauce]

Yes, I most assuredly pointed out that man is flawed and when left to their own devices have tendencies towards sin, or amoral behaviors. I NEVER made any such claim you had to believe in God to discern right from wrong. Nonetheless, I posted because, yet again, a story regarding a religious cult gone wrong points the finger of hate toward any and all religion. But let me point out the fact that many more atrocities are carried out in secular society, go ahead and do your diligence on public school systems, impoverished countries with rogue governments, crime ridden pockets of cartels and human trafficking, and you will find countless examples of Godless people doing much worse and on a grander scale. Am I ashamed of Churches with scandals, cover ups, and less than impressive apologies, of course. That's inexcusable. But that's not what Jesus stood for. Humans are flawed. I follow Jesus. not you, not any of you, we have proven ourselves unworthy to follow!

.....none of which are behavior exclusive to "godless" people. As you have already admitted, people of your faith are also flawed and commit such crimes. Your comment on secular societies committing more atrocities is highly spurious. It's also irrelevant, some people are simply despicable individuals at their core irregardless of their faith or lack thereof. However, very few atheists go around committing crimes or atrocities on the behalf of atheism, while people committing atrocious acts in the name of their religion is a historically common occurrence.

However, I don't view that fact and then state "all theists are immoral" just because some are criminal scumbags. I just view that as a function of some theists using their religion to justify heinous actions.

So what's your excuse?

Also, atheism is not a religious cult. It's not even a religion or a belief system. It's a viewpoint on a single topic.

[Cinjin]

Yes, I most assuredly pointed out that man is flawed and when left to their own devices have tendencies towards sin, or amoral behaviors. I NEVER made any such claim you had to believe in God to discern right from wrong. Nonetheless, I posted because, yet again, a story regarding a religious cult gone wrong points the finger of hate toward any and all religion. But let me point out the fact that many more atrocities are carried out in secular society, go ahead and do your diligence on public school systems, impoverished countries with rogue governments, crime ridden pockets of cartels and human trafficking, and you will find countless examples of Godless people doing much worse and on a grander scale. Am I ashamed of Churches with scandals, cover ups, and less than impressive apologies, of course. That's inexcusable. But that's not what Jesus stood for. Humans are flawed. I follow Jesus. not you, not any of you, we have proven ourselves unworthy to follow!

Meh, this is bull shit back-peddling. Cut the sanctimonious shit and let me remind you of your opener:

From a religious point of view this is considered a tragic situation, but remove religion or any form of moral compass, isn't this called "a good night out" to the average atheist?

We'd be hard pressed to find a more ignorant statement EVER made on this website. And what was it you said? Oh yes ...

I follow Jesus.

No you don't. You say you do. You may even on occasion believe that you do, but you don't follow Jesus. You do whatever you want and use his name like it's a Groupon special. You're a dirty catholic - and since many of us "heathens" were once devout Christians we can smell the stink of a self-righteous hypocrite liar who knows absolutely NOTHING about atheism and probably knows even less about his own bible. You come in here throwing insults and puking up ignorant rhetoric all while waving the flag of Jesus. If he was alive he'd likely have you beaten for your rude cavalier attitude.


Now do us all a favor and go climb back under the slimy dark pedophile-infested rock you call the catholic church you were excreted from.

[Bob Kelso]

Sorry for the delay folks I had a beautiful Easter dinner with my friends and family. Jesus has risen! Purely outstanding! Perhaps I am completely naive as this is my first atheist forum, but I don't really understand the outward name calling. Is it customary on this site to make wild assertions of a persons character or purpose? Should I, in return, be as offensive to sound or appear to have more conviction? Folks, unless you haven't learned yet, just because your louder, angrier, aggressive, or treating, doesn't make you right. I've sat through too many conferences, meetings, or events to be swayed by other's agendas. No matter how passionate!

What is so promising or what is the compelling benefit a person would gain from being an atheist? Why am I inferior and you are superior?

Do you honestly think no one can see through your sanctimonious bullshit Sid? You don't get to make asshole remarks and then backpeddle wildly all the while sobbing about people calling you out and being 'mean' to you.

Go stick a crucifix up your arse.

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Oh, and by the by, this right here is why you're inferior;

From a religious point of view this is considered a tragic situation, but remove religion or any form of moral compass, isn't this called "a good night out" to the average atheist?

Idiot.