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RE: What would it take for you to believe in God?
May 15, 2014 at 1:54 pm
(April 29, 2014 at 10:56 pm)te1148 Wrote: I depend on faith, because I think faith is superior to reason. Reason rests in what my own mental faculties can comprehend.
I think I spotted the problem.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
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RE: What would it take for you to believe in God?
May 23, 2014 at 2:40 pm
(May 15, 2014 at 1:54 pm)Tonus Wrote: (April 29, 2014 at 10:56 pm)te1148 Wrote: I depend on faith, because I think faith is superior to reason. Reason rests in what my own mental faculties can comprehend.
I think I spotted the problem.
Isn't it ironic? That's the cool thing about reason, it's objective and you can get better at it. This increases your chances of success in life. Faith on the other hand, is subjective. There's no way to gauge if you've got enough. Also we live in a world that has much better answers for things than faith.
8000 years before Jesus, the Egyptian god Horus said, "I am the way, the truth, the life."
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RE: What would it take for you to believe in God?
May 23, 2014 at 3:48 pm
Can I just say how much I enjoy the wheedling tone of this thread's title? It almost feels like a very genteel con is taking place; "I know I can't provide real evidence for my god, but what rhetorical tricks can I employ to get you to believe anyway?"
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RE: What would it take for you to believe in God?
May 26, 2014 at 5:29 am
(This post was last modified: May 26, 2014 at 5:36 am by MountainsWinAgain.)
So tell me what seems more logical that Constantine made Christianity the leading religion in Rome Empire and this is the cause of Christianity or do you have a more logical explanation?
What you call god is an emotional state we can't argue or knock some sense in you because your brain thinks it's survival is being threatened and you will deny everything even if our arguments seem logical and acceptable by a reasonable mind.
If you think that god is a white old dude in the sky looking over us I think that you didn't really matured from an mind of a child. If you name physical forces that govern the universe god,well this is something different, I also do believe in such god and all people that call them self atheists believe in a such god,but this god does not care for you or me nor does it care where you put your penis or what you marry,....
I don't really give a shit what you christians,muslims,jews and other primates believe in just don't stick your childish minds in politics or in decisions of other people that do not concern you. Your emotional state has done more than enough harm to our experience as human beings.
Excuse my English
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