Catholicism

[Fidel_Castronaut]

You show me an institution that transcends time and space, that is centered on devotion to the Blessed Trinity, that makes the salvation of souls, not raking in the cash, its number one mission, that was founded by Jesus Christ Himself, that was entrusted to the Blessed Virgin Mary, that has a litany of Saints, that will defend itself to the last breath for the Truth it knows and loves and you find me and tell me that isn't EXTRAORDINARY.

Uh, any evidence for the bolded parts?

[Chas]

That's bullshit and you know it.

You think the Crusades, the Spanish Inquisition, the Church's proscription against homosexuality, it's stance against women, the systematic cover up of child rape---none of that is the Church's responsibility as an organization?

Listen to what I have said. Are you admitting then, that the Church is so perfect that She cannot falter here on earth? Or are you setting unrealistic expectations. It is the same old song and dance every time. I say this, you respond with the Crusades and child abuse cases that, while significant issues WITHIN the Church, that is, issues that needed to be worked out, just as a team focusses on issues in practice, really are beside the point of the Church's mission.

Not having the church cover up child rape and protect the rapists is not an unrealistic expectation.

If you think it is, you are a sorry excuse for a human being.

[Zen Badger]

Telling us that we should overlook the vile history of the church and just focus on the nice bits is like saying "sure, the nazi's were bad, but they made the trains run on time"

[Crossless2.0]

There is nothing good or moral about looking beyond the atrocities. To still be a member of a corrupt institution is to basically state that you are okay with all the wrongs it commits.

It is called forgiveness my friend.

Who the fuck do you think you are? These crimes aren't yours to forgive. You can either condemn them or tacitly support them. Apparently you think looking the other way while continuing to financially support a criminal conspiracy is OK. Your moral bankruptcy is clear.

[JesusHChrist]

Walks like duck executed a nicely done troll --

Waltz into atheist forum
Ask what the grumpy, satan-possessed denizens think of "Catholicism"
Minimize well-documented horrors of said institution, "they's just playin' bro!"
Stand back and let denizens have their say "snarl, froth, grrrr"
Quietly slip out the side door, chuckling like a duck

[Cato]

Please remember we are talking to someone who actually believes when he consumes a shitty tasting wafer that it literally turns into the flesh of Christ.

[SteelCurtain]

^^ Right!?!

[Clueless Morgan]

[Minimalist]

Listen to what I have said. Are you admitting then, that the Church is so perfect that She cannot falter here on earth?

Your fucking church is nothing but the collective will of the slimy scumbags who run it. From the first phony bishops to the current collection of pervert scumbags THEY dictate what the church is to sheep like you.

[ducketto]

What the fuck is wrong with you?

Faith is what is wrong with the duck.

Do you put faith in anything or anyone but yourself?

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Listen to what I have said. Are you admitting then, that the Church is so perfect that She cannot falter here on earth?

Your fucking church is nothing but the collective will of the slimy scumbags who run it. From the first phony bishops to the current collection of pervert scumbags THEY dictate what the church is to sheep like you.

I don't know where your avid hate for the Church comes from. This is intended for the whole slew of you who have challenged me on this post: your entire argument is centered on sexual abuse scandals. If we go beyond that, which you all can't seem to do and call me crazy for doing, what else is there? It's like 9/11, at some point, our nation had to forgive and move beyond it all.