I hate Misandry and feminism.

[Gooders1002]

Ok let us test out my quoting skills.

I am not saying that there are not women working on the road but when what the last time a women was killed working on roads?

My point was, it's hard to take videos like this and complaints like yours seriously when you make obviously false assertions. You cannot say, "women do not work on roads, men do" (in fairness this is from the video and you didn't personally say it), because I will automatically think bullshit that's a lie and I will not take you seriously. Do some research and give the statistics or say the majority if roadside workers are men, but do not use hyperboles or non-facts to prove your point because it ruins your point.

Firstly i am using the uk for my points and secondly I could not get data by gender for the uk otherwise I would have. And in the UK mostly men, are roadside workers.

While I do agree, prostate cancer is the 4th larger cause of death by cancer in the uk after breast cancer.
For instance 11762 people died of breast cancer in 2011, 11684 of those were female, were male were as 10793 men died of prostate cancer. Now that’s a 8.3% difference but the funding for prostate cancer is far lower than it should be (I can’t find the figures but there stupidly small)
http://www.cancerresearchuk.org/cancer-i...cerdeaths/

Why don't you say, "why isn't there a prostate cancer awareness month?"
Implying that breast cancer awareness is somehow sexist doesn't help your case at all. Also, in the United States, September is National Prostate Health Month. It doesn't get as much attention as Breast Cancer Awareness. My personal opinion on this is that women love to talk. When we are struggling, we tend to seek out other women who are going through or have been through similar experiences. We like to ask for support and support each other. Men aren't usually as open with each other because society tells them that being a man means to internalize your issues.

I agree but we don't have the same thing in the UK as like you send Men are told to internalise are issues, but it needs funding and more encouragement to deal with the problem.

Well men are raped more in equal numbers but A. its not reported B. not taken seriously C. the law says is not possible for a man to be raped by a women
Rape as defined in section 1 of the sexual offences act.
(1) A person (A) commits an offence if—
(a) he intentionally penetrates the vagina, anus or mouth of another person (B) with his penis,
(b) B does not consent to the penetration, and
© A does not reasonably believe that B consents.
So a woman can force a man to penetrate her and is not rape, and if she gets pregnancy she can claim child support off him.

I agree with you mostly, and I think the rest is just a difference in where we live. That is a fucked up law. Here is my state's definition of rape.

"Rape is sexual conduct with another who is not the spouse of the offender or who is the spouse of the offender but is living separate and apart from the offender, when any of the following applies:
(a) For the purpose of preventing resistance, the offender substantially impairs the other person's judgment or control by administering any drug, intoxicant, or controlled substance to the other person surreptitiously or by force, threat of force, or deception.

(b) The other person is less than thirteen years of age, whether or not the offender knows the age of the other person.

© The other person's ability to resist or consent is substantially impaired because of a mental or physical condition or because of advanced age, and the offender knows or has reasonable cause to believe that the other person's ability to resist or consent is substantially impaired because of a mental or physical condition or because of advanced age.

No person shall engage in sexual conduct with another when the offender purposely compels the other person to submit by force or threat of force. Whoever violates this section is guilty of rape; a felony in the first degree"

So where are I live men are treated equally, but no married person is protected from rape under the law unless they are not living together at the time of the rape.

I agree, I am quoting UK not US law.

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Well modern feminism wants female supremacy where men are nothing but disposable utilities and ATMs if not (and i am going extreme here) wiped off the face of the earth, they are literally saying kill all men. though tat would kill humanity as when cars start to break down and food does not hit shelves and oil is not brought up and refined then they wish for men back. Its a mans world build for women.

I'm sorry, again, you go so extreme that it sounds like crazy talk and I can't take you seriously. That sucks because I want to be on your side. I think men are discriminated against and it's wrong to discriminate against people male or female. It's wrong.
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Ok I done some more research on the topic and I am retracting that statement, it was a hashtag #killallmen which as more of a war cry from feminist, so I am sorry I was wrong.

[Losty]

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Ok let us test out my quoting skills.

Firstly i am using the uk for my points and secondly I could not get data by gender for the uk otherwise I would have. And in the UK mostly men, are roadside workers.

I agree but we don't have the same thing in the UK as like you send Men are told to internalise are issues, but it needs funding and more encouragement to deal with the problem.


I agree with you mostly, and I think the rest is just a difference in where we live. That is a fucked up law. Here is my state's definition of rape.

"Rape is sexual conduct with another who is not the spouse of the offender or who is the spouse of the offender but is living separate and apart from the offender, when any of the following applies:
(a) For the purpose of preventing resistance, the offender substantially impairs the other person's judgment or control by administering any drug, intoxicant, or controlled substance to the other person surreptitiously or by force, threat of force, or deception.

(b) The other person is less than thirteen years of age, whether or not the offender knows the age of the other person.

© The other person's ability to resist or consent is substantially impaired because of a mental or physical condition or because of advanced age, and the offender knows or has reasonable cause to believe that the other person's ability to resist or consent is substantially impaired because of a mental or physical condition or because of advanced age.

No person shall engage in sexual conduct with another when the offender purposely compels the other person to submit by force or threat of force. Whoever violates this section is guilty of rape; a felony in the first degree"

So where are I live men are treated equally, but no married person is protected from rape under the law unless they are not living together at the time of the rape.

I agree, I am quoting UK not US law.

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You fail at quoting
Bahaha I'm just teasing.

Anyways, yes my whole point to begin with is that I agree with you but it's hard to take things seriously if the claims aren't completely accurate. Anywho, I am seriously surprised about the UK rape laws not protecting men. I was under the impression that the UK was more liberal than murica. I now wonder whether or not it is illegal for a person to rape their spouse in the UK, here it is not illegal in most states.

[Gooders1002]

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I agree, I am quoting UK not US law.

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You fail at quoting
Bahaha I'm just teasing.

Anyways, yes my whole point to begin with is that I agree with you but it's hard to take things seriously if the claims aren't completely accurate. Anywho, I am seriously surprised about the UK rape laws not protecting men. I was under the impression that the UK was more liberal that murica. I now wonder whether or not it is illegal for a person to rape their spouse in the UK, here it is not illegal in most states.

I did say in my first post I was drunk at the time of writing and I thank you for correcting me on the issue.

[Bob Kelso]

I just skimmed the OP but I'll say this much;

Feminism is a fucking joke. Anything that only focuses on one gender or one side of an inequality issue is part of the problem, not the potential solution. I can't even take feminists seriously.

(I'm talking extreme feminism in regards to America, to be clear.)

[Gooders1002]

I just skimmed the OP but I'll say this much;

Feminism is a fucking joke. Anything that only focuses on one gender or one side of an inequality issue is part of the problem, not the potential solution. I can't even take feminists seriously.

(I'm talking extreme feminism in regards to America, to be clear.)

Unfortunately feminism is a highly funded and dangerous joke, which is to profitable to the government (which is a rant for another time) so we will have to take it seriously.

[FlyingNarwhal]

There are injustices to men in the world, no doubt. But, here's a stat that you missed. ALL WOMEN at one point, and in the grand scheme of things, it wasn't all that long ago, weren't permitted to vote. Weren't permitted to own property. Weren't permitted to work certain jobs. AN ENTIRE GENDER.

Now, someone here -- can't remember who...brought up in another thread recently, that all men are required when they turn 18 to sign up for the military. This is mandatory. 18 yr old girls aren't required.

If we are ever going to halt the gender bias, then both genders have to start being viewed equally. Not only when it's convenient.

I know that the fact that women couldn't vote until recently is bad. I think you will find very few people that still think that women shouldn't be afforded the ability to vote.

Now I'm not trying to turn this into gender pissing contest, but the fact that men are still required to register in the Selective Service and that 99% of the casualties of war since the start of civilization have been men is at least as bad as the history of women women's voting rights. If your talking what has been done to entire genders, war has been run on the fuel of men's lives. This should be a big deal, on the same level as women's voting rights. But if you sit in on a history class there will be no mention of this blind unfairness, no mention on the news, no mention from feminist groups.

And I believe it's because there is a very generalized view of how gender roles played out, which is that one group got all the benefits and the other group got royally screwed. When in reality, both groups got screwed and reaped benefits in different areas. And who set the roles in the first place?

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Our pesky friend religion of course!

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But I think the Selective Service is also a perfect example of this. I have tried searching but I have not found many instances where feminist groups actively take on the discrepancy in the Selective Service. And the ones I have found broach the topic that the SS is sexist because it implies that women are not capable of fighting in war. From their perspective the law implies that women are not equal to men. But from my perspective, the law implies that men are not equal to women. Because no one should be required to join the military or forfeit their rights.

[*Deidre*]

There are injustices to men in the world, no doubt. But, here's a stat that you missed. ALL WOMEN at one point, and in the grand scheme of things, it wasn't all that long ago, weren't permitted to vote. Weren't permitted to own property. Weren't permitted to work certain jobs. AN ENTIRE GENDER.

Now, someone here -- can't remember who...brought up in another thread recently, that all men are required when they turn 18 to sign up for the military. This is mandatory. 18 yr old girls aren't required.

If we are ever going to halt the gender bias, then both genders have to start being viewed equally. Not only when it's convenient.

I know that the fact that women couldn't vote until recently is bad. I think you will find very few people that still think that women shouldn't be afforded the ability to vote.

Now I'm not trying to turn this into gender pissing contest, but the fact that men are still required to register in the Selective Service and that 99% of the casualties of war since the start of civilization have been men is at least as bad as the history of women women's voting rights. If your talking what has been done to entire genders, war has been run on the fuel of men's lives. This should be a big deal, on the same level as women's voting rights. But if you sit in on a history class there will be no mention of this blind unfairness, no mention on the news, no mention from feminist groups.

And I believe it's because there is a very generalized view of how gender roles played out, which is that one group got all the benefits and the other group got royally screwed. When in reality, both groups got screwed and reaped benefits in different areas. And who set the roles in the first place?

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Our pesky friend religion of course!

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But I think the Selective Service is also a perfect example of this. I have tried searching but I have not found many instances where feminist groups actively take on the discrepancy in the Selective Service. And the ones I have found broach the topic that the SS is sexist because it implies that women are not capable of fighting in war. From their perspective the law implies that women are not equal to men. But from my perspective, the law implies that men are not equal to women. Because no one should be required to join the military or forfeit their rights.

I'll have you know that I was unaware of the selective service mandate for men only until you pointed it out. I'm now sharing that with other unaware people.

Paying it forward so to speak.

In my eyes, where modern feminism has taken a turn for the worse is when it started telling women that we should demand equal rights and freedoms without having equal responsibility. That isn't what feminism was intended to be about.

[Losty]

There are injustices to men in the world, no doubt. But, here's a stat that you missed. ALL WOMEN at one point, and in the grand scheme of things, it wasn't all that long ago, weren't permitted to vote. Weren't permitted to own property. Weren't permitted to work certain jobs. AN ENTIRE GENDER.

Now, someone here -- can't remember who...brought up in another thread recently, that all men are required when they turn 18 to sign up for the military. This is mandatory. 18 yr old girls aren't required.

If we are ever going to halt the gender bias, then both genders have to start being viewed equally. Not only when it's convenient.

I know that the fact that women couldn't vote until recently is bad. I think you will find very few people that still think that women shouldn't be afforded the ability to vote.

Now I'm not trying to turn this into gender pissing contest, but the fact that men are still required to register in the Selective Service and that 99% of the casualties of war since the start of civilization have been men is at least as bad as the history of women women's voting rights. If your talking what has been done to entire genders, war has been run on the fuel of men's lives. This should be a big deal, on the same level as women's voting rights. But if you sit in on a history class there will be no mention of this blind unfairness, no mention on the news, no mention from feminist groups.

And I believe it's because there is a very generalized view of how gender roles played out, which is that one group got all the benefits and the other group got royally screwed. When in reality, both groups got screwed and reaped benefits in different areas. And who set the roles in the first place?

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Our pesky friend religion of course!

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But I think the Selective Service is also a perfect example of this. I have tried searching but I have not found many instances where feminist groups actively take on the discrepancy in the Selective Service. And the ones I have found broach the topic that the SS is sexist because it implies that women are not capable of fighting in war. From their perspective the law implies that women are not equal to men. But from my perspective, the law implies that men are not equal to women. Because no one should be required to join the military or forfeit their rights.

Well the reason it isn't mention in history is because it wasn't that women didn't have to, it was that they were not allowed. The very men who were drafted in against their will would have been horrified at the thought if working beside some lowly woman.

BUT it is never okay to punish someone for what their ancestors did.

No one should be forced to register for the selective service. Absolutely no one. But if they're going to make people register everyone should have to. I still think they should do away with the whole thing.

[max-greece]

99% of the casualties of war since the start of civilization have been men

I haven't looked this up but I am fairly sure 99% of the causes of war have been men.

[Fidel_Castronaut]

We need to move past archaic 'battle of the sexes' mentality and start looking at a truly egalitarian movement that focuses on equality of opportunity for all, regardless of sex, colour etc.