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Archaeologists Think They Have Found the Wreck of The Santa Maria
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RE: Archaeologists Think They Have Found the Wreck of The Santa Maria
(May 13, 2014 at 12:15 pm)Chuck Wrote:
(May 13, 2014 at 12:01 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Close enough for government work.

Almost as close as Malaysia airlines flight 370.

Yeah..... whatever happened with that?
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RE: Archaeologists Think They Have Found the Wreck of The Santa Maria
(May 13, 2014 at 2:14 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote:
(May 13, 2014 at 12:41 pm)Chuck Wrote: Even Nelson's Victory, one of the largest ships in the world 300 years after Columbus, and home to a crew of 800, was still unbelieveably small to modern maritime sensibilities.

The victory was only as long as a typical modern big containership is wide.

Put in another perspective, the flight deck of a Nimitz-class aircraft carrier is large enough to accommodate at least a dozen ships-of-the-line like HMS Victory, perhaps more.

Many more. You can arrange a column of 6 HMS Victories (minus the bow sprit) end to end on the flight deck of USS Nimitz, without any parts hanging over the bow and stern of the Nimitz. You can also arrange a row of 5 HMS Victories side by side across the widest part of Nimitz's flight deck with room left to spare.

Also, the deck of the largest containership in the world, the Mærsk McKinney Møller, is literally large enough to hold Nelson's entire fleet at trafalgar. It's cargo hold is large enough to almost hold the entire Franco-Spanish fleet from the same battle. It's load carrying capacity is more than enough to support the combined weight of both fleets.

All the men, guns, and ships of the greatest battle of the age of sails will fit into one single modern container ship.

Think about that.
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RE: Archaeologists Think They Have Found the Wreck of The Santa Maria
(May 13, 2014 at 2:27 pm)Chuck Wrote:
(May 13, 2014 at 2:14 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: Put in another perspective, the flight deck of a Nimitz-class aircraft carrier is large enough to accommodate at least a dozen ships-of-the-line like HMS Victory, perhaps more.

Many more. You can arrange a row of 6 HMS Victories (minus the bow sprit) end to end on the flight deck of USS Nimitz, without any parts hanging over the bow and stern of the Nimitz. You can also arrange 5 HMS Victories side by side across the widest part of Nimitz's flight deck.

Yeah, I thought of that - the flight deck is 250 feet wide at it's widest point, but substantially narrower at the ends, and there is of course the superstructure to deal with. I didn't feel like drawing it out to be more precise. Big Grin I figured it could be 20 or more, so "at least a dozen" worked.
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RE: Archaeologists Think They Have Found the Wreck of The Santa Maria
But Victory is way fucking cooler.


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RE: Archaeologists Think They Have Found the Wreck of The Santa Maria
(May 13, 2014 at 2:35 pm)Minimalist Wrote: But Victory is way fucking cooler.

Well, yeah - but if you had an aircraft carrier, you could use Victory as a tender. Big Grin
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RE: Archaeologists Think They Have Found the Wreck of The Santa Maria
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Beg to differ..







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RE: Archaeologists Think They Have Found the Wreck of The Santa Maria
Modern ships are ugly.
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RE: Archaeologists Think They Have Found the Wreck of The Santa Maria
(May 13, 2014 at 2:35 pm)Minimalist Wrote: But Victory is way fucking cooler.

Whoever had to run all of those lines looks at an IT cabling cluster and whispers "pussies" under his breath.
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RE: Archaeologists Think They Have Found the Wreck of The Santa Maria
(May 13, 2014 at 2:35 pm)Minimalist Wrote: But Victory is way fucking cooler.


Maybe if you didn't need to use the toilets aboard.
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RE: Archaeologists Think They Have Found the Wreck of The Santa Maria
(May 13, 2014 at 6:26 pm)Chuck Wrote:
(May 13, 2014 at 2:35 pm)Minimalist Wrote: But Victory is way fucking cooler.


Maybe if you didn't need to use the toilets aboard.

What could be more convenient than hanging your butt over the side?
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