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Napoléon Offline
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RE: Atheists
May 20, 2014 at 1:29 pm (This post was last modified: May 20, 2014 at 1:30 pm by Napoléon.)
(May 20, 2014 at 1:21 pm)LastPoet Wrote: Its the theistic internet version of a drive-by. In real life they would drive past throwing bibles.

I misread bibles as "babies". Made it sound like they would be feeding us or something.
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RE: Atheists
May 20, 2014 at 1:35 pm
Just don't be within a mile of this genius. If he punctures his head everything within this distance will be immediately sucked into the resulting vacuum.
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RE: Atheists
May 20, 2014 at 1:56 pm
(May 20, 2014 at 1:29 pm)Napoléon Wrote: I misread bibles as "babies". Made it sound like they would be feeding us or something.

Is it lunchtime already? Time is flying by today....
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RE: Atheists
May 20, 2014 at 1:57 pm
(May 20, 2014 at 1:56 pm)JesusHChrist Wrote: Is it lunchtime already? Time is flying by today....

Who says babies are just for Lunch?
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RE: Atheists
May 20, 2014 at 2:00 pm
(May 20, 2014 at 1:57 pm)Napoléon Wrote: Who says babies are just for Lunch?

True, they are versatile.
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RE: Atheists
May 20, 2014 at 3:48 pm (This post was last modified: May 20, 2014 at 3:55 pm by BlackMason.)
(May 19, 2014 at 10:33 pm)MrWizard Wrote: Can you prove something came from nothing?

I don't think anyone can prove whether something came from nothing. The reason is simple: You need a "nothing" to observe to see if in fact something can come from it or not. What is nothing? Is it possible to have nothing? The conceptual idea of nothing that we have probably doesn't exist. If nothing is simply a void, then are there air particles in it? What about dust?

You see as human beings we tend to explain things by referencing them to that which we know and understand. Even new ideas and notions. So our concept of "nothing" is based on that which is. And since you'd be fucking around if you define something as that which isn't, we actually have a paradox. "Nothing" is a paradox. When you think of nothing do you see blackness? Well that blackness is made of something. Do you see complete light/whiteout? That shit be made of something too. I think I've made my point.

Lastly, I will concede that inductive reasoning would lead us to believe that something does not come from nothing. But what's your point?
8000 years before Jesus, the Egyptian god Horus said, "I am the way, the truth, the life."
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RE: Atheists
May 20, 2014 at 3:52 pm
(May 19, 2014 at 10:33 pm)MrWizard Wrote: Can you prove something came from nothing?

You mean like......christianity?
Kuusi palaa, ja on viimeinen kerta kun annan vaimoni laittaa jouluvalot!
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RE: Atheists
May 20, 2014 at 3:52 pm
(May 20, 2014 at 3:48 pm)BlackMason Wrote:
(May 19, 2014 at 10:33 pm)MrWizard Wrote: Can you prove something came from nothing?

I don't think anyone can prove whether something came from nothing. The reason is simple: You need a "nothing" to observe to see if in fact something can come from it or not. What is nothing? Is it possible to have nothing? The conceptual idea of nothing that we have probably doesn't exist. If nothing is simply a void, then are there air particles in it? What about dust?

You see as human beings we tend to explain things by referencing them to that which we know and understand. Even new ideas and notions. So our concept of "nothing" is based on that which is. And since you'd be fucking around if you define something as that which isn't, we actually have a paradox. "Nothing" is a paradox.

Lastly, I will concede that inductive reasoning would lead us to believe that something does not come from nothing. But what's your point?

Actually something comes from nothing all the time. Read some quantum physics.
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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RE: Atheists
May 20, 2014 at 3:57 pm
(May 20, 2014 at 3:52 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote:
(May 20, 2014 at 3:48 pm)BlackMason Wrote: I don't think anyone can prove whether something came from nothing. The reason is simple: You need a "nothing" to observe to see if in fact something can come from it or not. What is nothing? Is it possible to have nothing? The conceptual idea of nothing that we have probably doesn't exist. If nothing is simply a void, then are there air particles in it? What about dust?

You see as human beings we tend to explain things by referencing them to that which we know and understand. Even new ideas and notions. So our concept of "nothing" is based on that which is. And since you'd be fucking around if you define something as that which isn't, we actually have a paradox. "Nothing" is a paradox.

Lastly, I will concede that inductive reasoning would lead us to believe that something does not come from nothing. But what's your point?

Actually something comes from nothing all the time. Read some quantum physics.

How is nothing defined in quantum physics?
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RE: Atheists
May 20, 2014 at 4:14 pm
(May 19, 2014 at 10:33 pm)MrWizard Wrote: Can you prove something came from nothing?
No, I cannot. Now what?
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."

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