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Is suicide wrong?
#41
RE: Is suicide wrong?
Its an personal choice not a very good one you just eliminate the chance of things ever getting better. You are alive,now and never more. Why would you shorten the experience of living once death comes knocking you will be dead for an eternity but for now you were given a chance to live I don't see a single reason why you would like to end your life.
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#42
RE: Is suicide wrong?
I can't answer that question. It's subjective.

Suicide is a right but it's not always right.
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#43
RE: Is suicide wrong?
As most others on here have said - depends.

If you are dying of some incurable disease and just looking forwards to pain with no chance of any quality of life then its an understandable choice.

There are probably other examples but in the context of a normal life, even a depressed one, I gotta go with wrong, although I'm not sure its a moral issue.

We get one go around on this planet, after that, nothing. Why race towards nothing? Sometimes being first to cross the finishing line isn't the best thing.
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#44
RE: Is suicide wrong?
evolution suggest that if depressed people kill themselves we will have less depression in later generations.

so I say let them jump. Just be considerate of where you chose to land please. Angel Cloud
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#45
RE: Is suicide wrong?
If depression were a purely genetic phenomenon, then that might be true, provided that those suicides on average preceded opportunities for procreation.

As far as OP, it's too specific a question. There are times when it is reprehensible, there are times when it makes sense. On a moral level, every person has a right to their own life, or to end their own life. When circumstances are such that people's lives are dependent on you, that's the reason why I might suggest that a person shouldn't commit suicide.
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#46
RE: Is suicide wrong?
Clearly, a lot of you don't understand depression. Protip: depression=/=sadness. In fact, my depression manifests as apathy most of the time, and when I'm the most apathetic, I'm the most suicidal.
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#47
RE: Is suicide wrong?
(May 27, 2014 at 4:46 am)Losty Wrote:
(May 27, 2014 at 4:28 am)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: Well, those people are called "psychopaths". They lack compassion and a wide range of other things. They are mere parodies of humans, they have the husk, but the soul is nonexistent.

By "these people" I will assume you were including yourself considering the complete lack of compassion and empathy in your previous post. Though, I would say sociopath not psychopath, but that's just me.
Compassion does not mean that you have to acknowledge their desire to end their life.
I myself may empathize with their condition, but I can never agree with their method of dealing it.
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#48
RE: Is suicide wrong?
(May 27, 2014 at 1:07 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote: Clearly, a lot of you don't understand depression. Protip: depression=/=sadness. In fact, my depression manifests as apathy most of the time, and when I'm the most apathetic, I'm the most suicidal.

so you just don't feel like jumping? Then when you feel like doing something, it aint jumping?

but you are right of course. Apathy is a large part.

(May 27, 2014 at 1:06 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote: If depression were a purely genetic phenomenon, then that might be true, provided that those suicides on average preceded opportunities for procreation.

As far as OP, it's too specific a question. There are times when it is reprehensible, there are times when it makes sense. On a moral level, every person has a right to their own life, or to end their own life. When circumstances are such that people's lives are dependent on you, that's the reason why I might suggest that a person shouldn't commit suicide.

True.
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#49
RE: Is suicide wrong?
(May 27, 2014 at 7:17 pm)archangle Wrote:
(May 27, 2014 at 1:07 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote: Clearly, a lot of you don't understand depression. Protip: depression=/=sadness. In fact, my depression manifests as apathy most of the time, and when I'm the most apathetic, I'm the most suicidal.

so you just don't feel like jumping? Then when you feel like doing something, it aint jumping?

but you are right of course. Apathy is a large part.

It's more like I want to disappear, but I don't have the energy or will to carry it out.

I've been depressed/sad and suicidal in the past (those are scary times for my loved ones), but depressed/apathetic is my normal state. I think about suicide a lot, but I doubt I'll ever actually do it.
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#50
RE: Is suicide wrong?
(May 27, 2014 at 7:46 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote:
(May 27, 2014 at 7:17 pm)archangle Wrote: so you just don't feel like jumping? Then when you feel like doing something, it aint jumping?

but you are right of course. Apathy is a large part.

It's more like I want to disappear, but I don't have the energy or will to carry it out.

I've been depressed/sad and suicidal in the past (those are scary times for my loved ones), but depressed/apathetic is my normal state. I think about suicide a lot, but I doubt I'll ever actually do it.
You're such a nice person. I wonder why you would have such thoughts.
But I must say that there are two things in life that do actually bring on people to the brink of suicide.
One is monotony, the other is the weight of your responsibilities crushing down upon you.
Amongst these, I'd say that monotony is the worst. I never had suicidal thoughts, but monotony would surely wear off on me.
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