What The Hell Do People Believe In If They Don't Believe In God?

[Rampant.A.I.]

They believe in themselves.

:jerkoff:

Your reference to purpose inserts teleology into nature contrary to the tacit materialism of your post. It is a contradiction. That's okay. Nearly all the atheist here do that without realizing it.

It's always funny to see a Wooters post. Poor guy, he tries so hard.

He's just trying to validate his own beliefs by claiming everyone else's are as ridiculous as his, and rely on assumption.

Which is hilarious, really, because he's accusing people of being "biased" toward empirical evidence, and not just believing whatever "feels right"

[Fidel_Castronaut]

Chad has been reduced to shitting and running in threads now, which is a shame.

He's really no better than the normal shit and runners now except for the fact he just sort of hangs around and posts silliness in the odd thread here and there.

[JesusHChrist]

The thing I don't understand about theists, is they claim a naturalistic/empirical/materialist worldview has no more of a solid basis than believing in a a Jewish Sky Monster (JSM), weird ghosty and his zombie son. One in three, three in one (oh, please!).

Yet, they must use the very same 5 senses to arrive at such a belief -- effectively level setting all of that brain in a vat nonsense. We *all* only have the same tools to observe information about reality, whatever it may be. Without reading (sight, hearing or touch) the Bible, the theist wouldn't *know* shit about the JSM and hizsef as hizsef. And don't go off on "personal revelation" either. If you do, then you've got to explain why Ol' connivin' Joe Smith's or Mohamed's (pig shit be upon him) "personal revelations" aren't just as valid as urin'.

Where the theism falls apart, is using those same senses, being unable to demonstrate any congruence between JSM belief and reality. Empiricists have centuries of success and have raised our modern standard of living higher than a king of a two hundred years ago could even dream.

Theism? A big fat zero. Go ahead theists, make a verifiable prediction about something in the near future. We both know you can't. Psycho babble about some heavenly realm/invisible dimension/next world/life in the hereafter is all you've got; on par with crystal therapy, homeopathic medicine or a worshiper of Zeus.

[Severan]

I want to believe...

How dare you use my profile picture

[Ryantology]

I use the definition of 'belief' as defined by cognitive scientists, 'the psychological state in which one accepts a proposition or premise to be true'.

That being said, there are good reasons to believe, and there are bad reasons to believe.

Bad reasons;

Emotional or wishful thinking, faith, raised to believe.

Good reasons;

Demonstrable evidence, reasoned argument, valid/sound logic.

In my experience, theists treat demonstrable evidence as worthless and faith as perfectly acceptable, and their belief that they have reasoned arguments and valid logic (and of course, every single one believes they do) is based upon at least one of the three bad reasons.

[MJ the Skeptical]

They believe in themselves.

Well, who doesn't believe in themself? theist or atheist. I know you're being derogatory, but at least understand that it's not mutually exclusive to atheists to believe there is only evidence of the natural world.

[Rampant.A.I.]

I want to believe...

How dare you use my profile picture

Nooooooooooooo