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RE: A Serious Question For Theists
June 23, 2014 at 4:03 am
(June 23, 2014 at 3:48 am)Knowledge of God Wrote: God may not be what you think of Him.
The only evidence for their being a God should be your personal experience with Him.
You lacking faith is evidence for God.
Personal experiences aren't evidence for anyone but the person having them, and we have not had any personal experiences with god. Therefore, we have no evidence of one, and are justified in our lack of belief.
Your last sentence is one of the most pathetic, wheedling attempts at a justification I've ever read.
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RE: A Serious Question For Theists
June 23, 2014 at 4:07 am
(June 23, 2014 at 3:48 am)Knowledge of God Wrote: You lacking faith is evidence for God.
By the same token, I suppose I could say that your having faith is evidence for the truth of atheism.
I could . . . but I'm not that fucking stupid.
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RE: A Serious Question For Theists
June 23, 2014 at 4:07 am
(June 23, 2014 at 4:03 am)Esquilax Wrote: Personal experiences aren't evidence for anyone but the person having them, and we have not had any personal experiences with god. Therefore, we have no evidence of one, and are justified in our lack of belief.
Go go captain obvious
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RE: A Serious Question For Theists
June 23, 2014 at 4:11 am
(June 23, 2014 at 4:07 am)fr0d0 Wrote: (June 23, 2014 at 4:03 am)Esquilax Wrote: Personal experiences aren't evidence for anyone but the person having them, and we have not had any personal experiences with god. Therefore, we have no evidence of one, and are justified in our lack of belief.
Go go captain obvious
I don't think one can be too obvious with a person willing to say that lacking belief in a god is evidence of a god.
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RE: A Serious Question For Theists
June 23, 2014 at 4:15 am
(June 23, 2014 at 4:11 am)Esquilax Wrote: I don't think one can be too obvious with a person willing to say that lacking belief in a god is evidence of a god.
I'm not prepared to judge until I know what he meant by that.
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RE: A Serious Question For Theists
June 23, 2014 at 6:01 am
(June 23, 2014 at 4:03 am)Esquilax Wrote: (June 23, 2014 at 3:48 am)Knowledge of God Wrote: God may not be what you think of Him.
The only evidence for their being a God should be your personal experience with Him.
You lacking faith is evidence for God.
Personal experiences aren't evidence for anyone but the person having them, and we have not had any personal experiences with god. Therefore, we have no evidence of one, and are justified in our lack of belief.
Your last sentence is one of the most pathetic, wheedling attempts at a justification I've ever read.
What can I say, you even justify yourself in your lack of belief?
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RE: A Serious Question For Theists
June 23, 2014 at 7:37 am
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The difference is that atheists' justification for lack of belief, or rather the "null hypothesis" if you will, is logically sound and honest, whereas yours, KoG, makes no sense whatsoever and causes us to wonder if you're merely here to troll the non-believers.
Or you could just explain your justification, but I won't hold my breath for something that makes sense.
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RE: A Serious Question For Theists
June 23, 2014 at 8:01 am
(June 23, 2014 at 6:01 am)Knowledge of God Wrote: What can I say, you even justify yourself in your lack of belief?
I know, having a realistic and logical justification for a belief must be really weird to someone used to believing on faith and personal experience, right? 
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RE: A Serious Question For Theists
June 23, 2014 at 8:48 am
(June 23, 2014 at 6:01 am)Knowledge of God Wrote: What can I say, you even justify yourself in your lack of belief? There are a great many things that each of us lack belief in. Are you saying that you don't justify your lack of belief in Santa Claus, or Shiva, or Xenu?
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RE: A Serious Question For Theists
June 23, 2014 at 9:24 am
(June 23, 2014 at 3:48 am)Knowledge of God Wrote: God may not be what you think of Him.
And you know this how? Superman may not be what you think of him either.
Quote:The only evidence for their being a God should be your personal experience with Him.
Which puts God "evidence" in the same category as those who have experienced Sasquatch, UFO abduction and visitation from horny succubi.
Quote:You lacking faith is evidence for God.
Requiring faith means you don't have any evidence, or nothing sufficiently compelling. You are pretending to know things you don't actually know.
So, to reword your statement:
Your lack of pretending to know things you don't actually know is evidence for God.
lol. Funny stuff! Keep it up -- we'll be here all week.
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