Posts: 8781
Threads: 26
Joined: March 15, 2010
Reputation:
29
RE: Examples of the atrocities caused by Christianity
June 10, 2014 at 11:29 pm
(June 10, 2014 at 1:49 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote: Theonewhoanswersyourquestions... what an egotistical user name!
So, answer me this: if we want to get to your hypothetical heaven, aren't we forced to live our lives the way Yahweh wants? What's the difference?
No you are not forced, you make the decision to live a life that God wants.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
Posts: 35438
Threads: 205
Joined: August 13, 2012
Reputation:
145
RE: Examples of the atrocities caused by Christianity
June 10, 2014 at 11:35 pm
(June 10, 2014 at 11:29 pm)Godschild Wrote: (June 10, 2014 at 1:49 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote: Theonewhoanswersyourquestions... what an egotistical user name!
So, answer me this: if we want to get to your hypothetical heaven, aren't we forced to live our lives the way Yahweh wants? What's the difference?
No you are not forced, you make the decision to live a life that God wants.
GC
But the "do what I say you should do or burn in hell for eternity" menyality says otherwise.
Dr RJA
Playing Cluedo with my mum while I was at Uni:
"You did WHAT? With WHO? WHERE???"
Posts: 69247
Threads: 3759
Joined: August 2, 2009
Reputation:
258
RE: Examples of the atrocities caused by Christianity
June 11, 2014 at 12:04 am
How about this one?
Quote:Count Raymond and his men, who were attacking the wall on the other side, did not yet know of all this, until they saw the Saracens leap from the wall in front of them. Forthwith, they joyfully rushed into the city to pursue and kill the nefarious enemies, as their comrades were already doing. Some Saracens, Arabs, and Ethiopians took refuge in the tower of David, others fled to the temples of the Lord and of Solomon. A great fight took place in the court and porch of the temples, where they were unable to escape from our gladiators. Many fled to the roof of the temple of Solomon, and were shot with arrows, so that they fell to the ground dead. In this temple almost ten thousand were killed. Indeed, if you had been there you would have seen our feet colored to our ankles with the blood of the slain. But what more shall I relate? None of them were left alive; neither women nor children were spared.
Fulcher of Chartres - Sack of Jerusalem - First Crusade
http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/source/fulk2.asp
Posts: 8781
Threads: 26
Joined: March 15, 2010
Reputation:
29
RE: Examples of the atrocities caused by Christianity
June 11, 2014 at 1:30 pm
(June 10, 2014 at 11:35 pm)Beccs Wrote: (June 10, 2014 at 11:29 pm)Godschild Wrote: No you are not forced, you make the decision to live a life that God wants.
GC
But the "do what I say you should do or burn in hell for eternity" menyality says otherwise.
Dr RJA
There is nothing in Christianity that conforms to that statement, you have a sever lack of understanding of Christianity, it might, no will benefit you to learn what Christianity is, it's a much better way for an argument than spouting what others have feed you.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
Posts: 1946
Threads: 17
Joined: February 6, 2014
Reputation:
18
Examples of the atrocities caused by Christianity
June 11, 2014 at 1:35 pm
(This post was last modified: June 11, 2014 at 1:37 pm by Rampant.A.I..)
(June 11, 2014 at 1:30 pm)Godschild Wrote: (June 10, 2014 at 11:35 pm)Beccs Wrote: But the "do what I say you should do or burn in hell for eternity" menyality says otherwise.
Dr RJA
There is nothing in Christianity that conforms to that statement, you have a sever lack of understanding of Christianity, it might, no will benefit you to learn what Christianity is, it's a much better way for an argument than spouting what others have feed you.
GC
Romans 13:1-14 ESV
Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment. For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Would you have no fear of the one who is in authority? Then do what is good, and you will receive his approval, for he is God's servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God's wrath on the wrongdoer. Therefore one must be in subjection, not only to avoid God's wrath but also for the sake of conscience.
Revelation 21:8
But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars--their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death."
Matthew 25:46
"Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life."
Posts: 6946
Threads: 26
Joined: April 28, 2012
Reputation:
83
RE: Examples of the atrocities caused by Christianity
June 11, 2014 at 1:38 pm
Jesus Camp
|