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RE: Christianity: Don't Reason, Just Obey
June 12, 2014 at 3:58 pm
The article you linked mentions she believes in the whole "free gift" idea. It's a weird concept. If something if free, it means you get it regardless of anything else. You don't need to change your life. You don't need to give anything in return. It's just yours. It's like if I showed up at your door, slipped $20 under it, and left. Maybe I'd say I'm giving away cash. Do what you want with this.
I'm not really sure why people think salvation is free, because if it was then everyone would get into heaven. You might say people need to accept it first. Well the bible says everyone already knows that god exists, so we're already aware of this gift. We all know it's there. Yet I'm pretty sure if a believer says salvation is a free gift, and the atheist says ok I accept it, and goes about his or her life doing exactly the same thing, the believer would have a problem with it.
Well you said it was free. If I'm expected to do anything different in return, it isn't a free gift.
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RE: Christianity: Don't Reason, Just Obey
June 12, 2014 at 4:00 pm
(June 12, 2014 at 3:54 pm)ronedee Wrote: And... "the vultures gather round the corpse"... once again!
The corpse of the Catholic Church? Jesus' corpse?
What corpse?
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RE: Christianity: Don't Reason, Just Obey
June 12, 2014 at 4:04 pm
(June 12, 2014 at 4:00 pm)JesusHChrist Wrote: (June 12, 2014 at 3:54 pm)ronedee Wrote: And... "the vultures gather round the corpse"... once again!
The corpse of the Catholic Church? Jesus' corpse?
What corpse?
You have read... but not understood!
Let someone, anyone who has understanding tell you.
I'll bet mini knows! Ask him.
Quis ut Deus?
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RE: Christianity: Don't Reason, Just Obey
June 12, 2014 at 4:20 pm
Vultures play a role in the great wheel of life. Thank gawd for vultures!
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RE: Christianity: Don't Reason, Just Obey
June 12, 2014 at 5:11 pm
Of corpse and vultures/eagles....
The original meaning invoked the corpse as the corrupt Jewish state in Jerusalem. The vultures were the Romans that came and devoured them.
I can only guess at Ronedee's intent here. Maybe that Joyce Meyers is corrupting the gospel so we vulture atheists have come to feed.
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RE: Christianity: Don't Reason, Just Obey
June 12, 2014 at 5:47 pm
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(June 12, 2014 at 3:42 pm)orangebox21 Wrote: I wouldn't trust anything Joyce Meyer says relating to Christianity. I don't think she knows what it teaches:
More info on Joyce Meyer
Why should we trust you any more than we trust her? What makes you a superior authority?
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RE: Christianity: Don't Reason, Just Obey
June 12, 2014 at 6:20 pm
(June 12, 2014 at 4:04 pm)ronedee Wrote: (June 12, 2014 at 4:00 pm)JesusHChrist Wrote: The corpse of the Catholic Church? Jesus' corpse?
What corpse?
You have read... but not understood!
Let someone, anyone who has understanding tell you.
I'll bet mini knows! Ask him.
In other words, you don't know what you're talking about either.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Christianity: Don't Reason, Just Obey
June 12, 2014 at 7:59 pm
I remember back in the Bible study days, when I was still a new member of the born again church, I asked the pastor a whole lot of questions which he was struggling to answer. At the end of the study, he came up to me and said: "It's good that you're asking questions, but try not to study it [the Bible] too much while you're still new to the faith, because it can be very dangerous and lead you astray".
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RE: Christianity: Don't Reason, Just Obey
June 12, 2014 at 8:17 pm
I think that says it all.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Christianity: Don't Reason, Just Obey
June 12, 2014 at 9:07 pm
(June 12, 2014 at 7:59 pm)Irrational Wrote: I remember back in the Bible study days, when I was still a new member of the born again church, I asked the pastor a whole lot of questions which he was struggling to answer. At the end of the study, he came up to me and said: "It's good that you're asking questions, but try not to study it [the Bible] too much while you're still new to the faith, because it can be very dangerous and lead you astray".
The Bible offers at least two opposing viewpoints to every issue. So no matter which viewpoint you adopt it will be in accordance with the Bible.
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