My first contribution to the forum.

[Losty]

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[vodkafan]

I appreciate her women's rights work however I am not her biggest fan. Her Qura'nic criticisms are very superficial & can actually be debunked by anyone with a sound knowledge of Qur'anic exegesis.
There are people who criticise Islam much more effectively than her, such as Klingschor.
I am not attempting to discredit all of her work, I'm just stating that she makes certain arguments which are weak & inflammatory.

Surely her biggest statement is just not wanting to be muslim. Just leaving the religion. It is of course her human right to do that, and to say and do as she wants.

[Qtian]

Surely her biggest statement is just not wanting to be muslim. Just leaving the religion. It is of course her human right to do that, and to say and do as she wants.

Yep, I'd agree with that. I don't believe that you should require a justification for not wanting to follow a religion. There doesn't need to be any explanation beyond the point "I don't want to believe in X anymore" as it is a personal matter. My initial statement was with reference to her position on critiquing Muslim views, there are far better arguments than hers which employ reductionism & treating Muslims as monolithic.
She is entitled to all of her opinions as is everyone, provided that they are not damaging or entailing coercion. In addition to this, if I was to seek a source which critiques Islam, I would look away from Hirsi as others do a better job in that sense.

Putting all of that together, my conclusion is that I am not the biggest fan of Ali but that is my opinion only.

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@Losty

Thanks

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[mralstoner]

I didn't read the original post but killing for blasphemy goes right back to the prophet Mohammed. So, don't expect it to be outlawed by Muslim countries.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Muhammad_12.jpg
Nasr bin al-Hareth is beheaded in the presence of Mohammed and his companions.


Muhammad decided to ransom most of the prisoners but he did order the execution of two members of the Quraysh tribe: Uqba ibn Abu Mu'ayt who had years earlier dumped sheep entrails over him whilst he was praying, and Al-Nadr Bin Al-Harith a poet who had criticized him years earlier claiming that Muhammad’s Koranic verses were nothing more than well known tales from foreign lands. (Ibn Ishaq, pg. 308)
http://explorethemed.com/mohammed.asp

[Ksa]

If you're still in Pakistan you should be careful because the Qur'an says that one can be put to death if:

1) Commits apostasy. AND
2) Propagates against Islam.

I believe in Pakistan those laws are like this. Just saying.

[ignoramus]

You can die by damaging one's feelings towards religion!
I am totally gobsmacked!

[Lemonvariable72]

I don't want to live on this planet any more

[ignoramus]

Spock, beam us all up, we've had enough.

[ignoramus]

it must be the water they drink or something...

As recently as 1966, sheik Abd el Aziz bin Baz asked the king of Saudi Arabia to suppress a heresy that was spreading in his land. Wrote the sheik:
"The Holy Koran, the Prophet’s teachings, the majority of Islamic scientists, and the actual facts all prove that the sun is running in its orbit . . . and that the earth is fixed and stable, spread out by God for his mankind. . . . Anyone who professed otherwise would utter a charge of falsehood toward God, the Koran, and the Prophet."
The good sheik evidently holds the Copernican theory to be a "mere theory," not a "fact." In this he is technically correct. A theory can be verified by a mass of facts, but it becomes a proven theory, not a fact. The sheik was perhaps unaware that the Space Age had begun before he asked the king to suppress the Copernican heresy. The sphericity of the earth has been seen by astronauts, and even by many earth-bound people on their television screens. Perhaps the sheik could retort that those who venture beyond the confines of God’s earth suffer hallucinations, and that the earth is really flat.