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No True Scotsman
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 No True Scotsman
June 19, 2014 at 1:03 pm
(This post was last modified: June 19, 2014 at 1:12 pm by Bibliofagus.)
(June 19, 2014 at 12:54 pm)Lek Wrote:(June 19, 2014 at 12:46 pm)Bibliofagus Wrote: So it's okay in your book to make slaves out of POW's? Because just letting them go with some food would have been impossible or something? Really?  RE: No True Scotsman
June 19, 2014 at 1:05 pm
(This post was last modified: June 19, 2014 at 1:08 pm by Chad32.)
(June 19, 2014 at 12:57 pm)Lek Wrote:(June 19, 2014 at 12:53 pm)Chad32 Wrote: You should not drown people for criticizing christianity, despite Jesus commanding people to tie millstones around their necks and throw them into rivers lest they lead a lamb astray. Well maybe he should have clarified that, because it sounded like he was suggesting it. Maybe not making it a strict commandment, but saying he'd be ok with it if it did happen. It's not like he said it would be better for them to die. He gave a specific form of death to be carried out. (June 19, 2014 at 1:02 pm)Lek Wrote:(June 19, 2014 at 12:53 pm)Chad32 Wrote: And yet christianity has been used as an excuse to hold down women and other ethnic groups, Atheism does not have a book that says slaves obey your masters, no matter how cruel, or women obey your husbands and be quiet in church. I would assume that if there was any word in the bible that your god disapproved of, he would have it removed. Therefore if it hasn't been removed, he must be ok with it.
Poe's Law: "Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is impossible to create a parody of Fundamentalism that SOMEONE won't mistake for the real thing."
10 Christ-like figures that predate Jesus. Link shortened to Chris ate Jesus for some reason... http://listverse.com/2009/04/13/10-chris...ate-jesus/ Good video to watch, if you want to know how common the Jesus story really is. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88GTUXvp-50 A list of biblical contradictions from the infallible word of Yahweh. http://infidels.org/library/modern/jim_m...tions.html  RE: No True Scotsman
June 19, 2014 at 1:10 pm
(This post was last modified: June 19, 2014 at 1:16 pm by Lek.)
(June 19, 2014 at 12:59 pm)Cato Wrote:(June 19, 2014 at 12:51 pm)Lek Wrote: He did say that people should not have sexual relations with people of the same sex, but also that sex for everyone should be within the married state. Paul and the other new testament writers were speaking based on what they knew of Christ's teachings. Everything he said during his public life was not written down in the four gospels. (June 19, 2014 at 1:05 pm)Chad32 Wrote: Well maybe he should have clarified that, because it sounded like he was suggesting it. Maybe not making it a strict commandment, but saying he'd be ok with it if it did happen. It's not like he said it would be better for them to die. He gave a specific form of death to be carried out. He was using an example to show what a terrible thing it was to lead someone away from God. (June 19, 2014 at 1:03 pm)Bibliofagus Wrote:(June 19, 2014 at 12:54 pm)Lek Wrote: I guess we just put them in prison now. At the time that was proper and humane treatment, especially if you treated them well. So they could come back and kill some more of you? 
Bad Wolf
Compulsive procrastinator  Religious Views: Agnostic atheist, anti-theist, whovian, misanthrope? (June 19, 2014 at 12:57 pm)Lek Wrote: They were chosen to be the bloodline for the messiah and to be the first to receive him. So everyone isn't equal in gods eyes? If everyone was equal, they would have 'received him' in alphabetical order or something. Also, do you have anything to say about the rest of my post, or are you admitting I was right and you were wrong?
'The more I learn about people the more I like my dog'- Mark Twain
'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House “Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom "If my good friend Doctor Gasparri speaks badly of my mother, he can expect to get punched.....You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others. There is a limit." - Pope Francis on freedom of speech  (June 19, 2014 at 1:10 pm)Lek Wrote: Paul and the other new testament writers were speaking based on what they knew of Christ's teachings. Everything he said during his public life was not written down in the four gospels. If the entire NT is considered Christ's teachings for the sake of identifying Christians per your 'follow Christ's teachings' definition, you will never find a Christian. No True Scotsman
June 19, 2014 at 1:21 pm
(This post was last modified: June 19, 2014 at 1:28 pm by Bibliofagus.)
(June 19, 2014 at 1:17 pm)Bad Wolf Wrote:(June 19, 2014 at 12:57 pm)Lek Wrote: They were chosen to be the bloodline for the messiah and to be the first to receive him. The poor fuckers on eastern island come to mind as well. They were 1800 years down the list of people to receive word on the good book. (June 19, 2014 at 1:10 pm)Lek Wrote:(June 19, 2014 at 1:03 pm)Bibliofagus Wrote: Because just letting them go with some food would have been impossible or something? I assumed you understood POW's generally don't have weapons. Sorry about that. Furthermore: them possibly coming back to kill you applies nowadays as well. Back then however that would take more time and effort and chances of this happening would be therefore lower.
Bad Wolf
Compulsive procrastinator Religious Views: Agnostic atheist, anti-theist, whovian, misanthrope? (June 19, 2014 at 1:21 pm)Bibliofagus Wrote: The poor fuckers on eastern island come to mind as well. They were 1800 years down the list of people to receive word on the good book. And for that matter, why can't everyone 'recieve' god at once? He's all-powerful for fuck sake, isn't he?
'The more I learn about people the more I like my dog'- Mark Twain
'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House “Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom "If my good friend Doctor Gasparri speaks badly of my mother, he can expect to get punched.....You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others. There is a limit." - Pope Francis on freedom of speech RE: No True Scotsman
June 19, 2014 at 1:33 pm
(This post was last modified: June 19, 2014 at 1:39 pm by Lek.)
(June 19, 2014 at 1:21 pm)Bibliofagus Wrote: I assumed you understood POW's generally don't have weapons. Sorry about that. Furthermore: them possibly coming back to kill you applies nowadays as well. Back then however that would take more time and effort and chances of this happening would be therefore lower. Nowadays we put them in prison. And, in this country, we treat them humanely (most of the time). |
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