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RE: Once Again.... If You Don't Like France...
July 2, 2014 at 4:19 pm
(July 2, 2014 at 7:39 am)Jacob(smooth) Wrote: I'm quite surprised I'm the only one here who seems to have a problem with this. Are there any other religious symbols or items of clothes people want to be made illegal?
I share your concern about freedom, and laud it.
I only think the niqab ban makes sense because of identification issues. There have been instances of jihadis using facial veils to facilitate their attacks, and I think any businessman has every right to expect that his customers shall willingly expose their faces for security purposes.
Thus, I'm against any ban of burkas / chadores, but definitely support a ban on facial veils, no matter the religious justification of lack thereof.
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July 2, 2014 at 5:11 pm
(This post was last modified: July 2, 2014 at 5:12 pm by pocaracas.)
The other "bad" side of such a ban is... and I understand why the british would see it as a problem...
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July 2, 2014 at 5:12 pm
(July 2, 2014 at 5:11 pm)pocaracas Wrote: The other "bad" side of such a ban is... and I understand why the british would see it as a problem...
Anonymous wear masks to avoid being arrested and persecuted.
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RE: Once Again.... If You Don't Like France...
July 2, 2014 at 5:23 pm
(July 2, 2014 at 5:12 pm)blackout94 Wrote: (July 2, 2014 at 5:11 pm)pocaracas Wrote: The other "bad" side of such a ban is... and I understand why the british would see it as a problem...
Anonymous wear masks to avoid being arrested and persecuted.
So do bank robbers... 
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RE: Once Again.... If You Don't Like France...
July 2, 2014 at 5:32 pm
(July 2, 2014 at 4:15 pm)Pickup_shonuff Wrote: (July 2, 2014 at 4:05 pm)Losty Wrote: Well motorbike helmets are necesarry to prevent brains smeared across highways so that's understandable
So I take it one must be on or next to a bike, otherwise a motorbike helmet is treated equivalent to a ski mask or niqab?
I don't know. The link doesn't work on my phone and to quote a 'friend' of mine (earmuffs there may be a couple people here who know him) I can't be arsed to look it up.
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RE: Once Again.... If You Don't Like France...
July 2, 2014 at 7:01 pm
(July 1, 2014 at 11:13 pm)Minimalist Wrote: go back to your desert shithole and wear whatever the fuck you want.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-28106900
Quote:The European Court of Human Rights has upheld a ban by France on wearing the Muslim full-face veil - the niqab.
“Those who desire to give up freedom in order to gain security will not have, nor do they deserve, either one.” - Benjamin Franklin.
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The French are idiots for doing this, and so is anyone that supports it. Surrendering freedoms in the name of security is unbelievable crass-stupidity. A life lived in fear is a life not worth living, allowing governments to get away with this is the first step down a very bad road.
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RE: Once Again.... If You Don't Like France...
July 2, 2014 at 7:08 pm
Should anyone be free to walk around naked?
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RE: Once Again.... If You Don't Like France...
July 2, 2014 at 7:10 pm
(July 2, 2014 at 7:08 pm)pocaracas Wrote: Should anyone be free to walk around naked?
It would make my day happier
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RE: Once Again.... If You Don't Like France...
July 2, 2014 at 7:13 pm
(July 2, 2014 at 7:10 pm)Losty Wrote: (July 2, 2014 at 7:08 pm)pocaracas Wrote: Should anyone be free to walk around naked?
It would make my day happier And yet it is forbidden in most places.
That freedom has been withdrawn from us... why?
Rape prevention? it is a security measure, then...
Unsightly horrors prevention? puhlease!
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RE: Once Again.... If You Don't Like France...
July 2, 2014 at 7:16 pm
Quote: allowing governments to get away with this is the first step down a very bad road.
This was not the first step.
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articl...nse_photo/
Quote:''We recognized the tension created as a result of choosing between following the dictates of one's religion and the mandates of secular law," Appellate Judge Emerson R. Thompson Jr. wrote in Friday's opinion. ''However, as long as the laws are neutral and generally applicable to the citizenry, they must be obeyed."
Florida hasn't done much right since but they nailed this one.
Oddly, I'd love to see/hear the xtian reaction if some state now allowed this bullshit in the wake of the Hobby Lobby decision. The screeching would be ear-shattering.
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