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Is Evolution a science or a faith?
RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith?
(August 3, 2014 at 8:23 pm)Metazoa Zeke Wrote: I love how the OP ignored my long post. Big Grin

Okay, I have a bone to pick with you. What the fuck is that dog-hyena thing wagging his tail in your signature? It's adorable and I want one.
In every country and every age, the priest had been hostile to Liberty.
- Thomas Jefferson
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RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith?
(August 3, 2014 at 8:23 pm)Metazoa Zeke Wrote: I love how the OP ignored my long post. Big Grin

I would hate that. Also, your avatar is hilarious.
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RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith?
Lately, I've watched a shitload of videos on evolution of eyes, skin, poison, flight, etc.
Sounds very convincing! Even the religious sponsored docos can be made to "sound " logical" if you have a reason to ignore the scientifically reviewed stuff.

I just want to know who will the govt go to for advice on travelling to mars!
The religious "Intelligent Designers" or the hard working high tech companies?

If so why?
Apparently and evidently, the " Intelligent Designers" are only good at "Intelligent" Deception of the highest order.

Ask yourself, what real world benefits has ID been responsible for?
I mean "in this life". Not tomorrow's! Tomorrow never comes!
No God, No fear.
Know God, Know fear.
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RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith?
(August 3, 2014 at 8:23 pm)Metazoa Zeke Wrote: I love how the OP ignored my long post. Big Grin


He is here to adore the sound of his own words, not to discover why other people might speak different words than his.
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RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith?
(July 8, 2014 at 9:06 am)pocaracas Wrote:
(July 8, 2014 at 8:53 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Sometimes, obtuseness is intentional.

The intentionality of it is a bit worrying...
Thinking

Actually, when I learn it's intentional, it's easy: <plonk>

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RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith?
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RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith?
WTF is this, Harris's personal Facebook wall or something?

(August 3, 2014 at 4:17 pm)Harris Wrote:
(July 28, 2014 at 7:43 pm)Stimbo Wrote: However, that's not even the point. My question to you was in response to your contention that atheists believe "God" doesn't exist. My position is I lack the belief that the character does exist. Now the ball is in your court.

“There is no God,” it is a BELIEF. You like it or not but this is the truth. You can’t run away by saying it is a lack of Belief. You believe in the non-existence of God without any doubt.

Nope - it's not that I have the belief that "God" does not exist - I do not have the belief that "God" does exist. It's the difference between saying I don't believe the coin came down head and saying I believe it came down tails. Please stop telling me and others what we believe. It's astonishingly arrogant.

(August 3, 2014 at 4:17 pm)Harris Wrote:
(July 28, 2014 at 8:34 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Please quote a single post of mine in which I ever said anything approaching this.

For the sake of argument, if I grant that you never said that ATHEISM IS NOT A FAITH. Can I then take it that you are saying ATHEISM IS IN FACT A FAITH?

Of course you can... if you don't mind me reporting you for deliberate misquoting.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith?
(August 3, 2014 at 8:26 pm)Losty Wrote:
(August 3, 2014 at 8:23 pm)Metazoa Zeke Wrote: I love how the OP ignored my long post. Big Grin

I hate how I miss you and I wish you posted here more Heart

How's my little brother doing? You good?

Very good.
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RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith?
Ignorance overload! WoW, Harris is one of those people I would like to take into a university biology lab and show him in person, exactly what is wrong with what he thinks. No hiding behind texts, no deflecting and ignoring points. Wait wait, uni lab may be too advanced, how about a high school lab.
And BTW fresh water and salt water do mix, if that were false we would see a halocline in the ocean.
'The more I learn about people the more I like my dog'- Mark Twain

'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House

“Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom

"If my good friend Doctor Gasparri speaks badly of my mother, he can expect to get punched.....You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others. There is a limit." - Pope Francis on freedom of speech
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RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith?
(August 4, 2014 at 11:02 am)Bad Wolf Wrote: And BTW fresh water and salt water do mix, if that were false we would see a halocline in the ocean.

Halocline requires special conditions to happen.
Nothing in the qur'an mentions those conditions... it just mentions that such a thing happens... but in a very imprecise way which reminds me of Aristotle's projectiles:
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