RE: How do you know you'll still be you when you get to heaven?
July 22, 2014 at 8:06 pm
(July 22, 2014 at 4:40 pm)StealthySkeptic Wrote: I've heard Christians say that there will be no crying in heaven
So heaven is like baseball? Because,
(July 22, 2014 at 6:58 pm)professor Wrote: You guys are nearly as comical as Red Green.
Of course you will still be you.
The essence of you is not the body you live in.
Presumably, you're talking about your consciousness or personality when you say this?
Quote:Here's the difference- until the Resurrection, in Heaven, you live in a spirit body, you look like you are in your 20s (unless you are younger than that when you leave here).
Why your 20s?
What if you were mauled by a rabid cougar (the feline, not the other kind :p) the day before your 20th birthday and you spent the next 15 years getting reconstructive surgery? Would your spirit body bear the scars of the mauling? Would you be destined to spend your eternity in heaven with the looks you had on your 29th year and 364th day of life because you can only look like what you looked like in your twenties?
And again, why your 20s? What's so magical about your 20s that you can't look a day over them once you're in heaven? What if this is what you looked like in your 20s?
Or this?
And what if you looked like this in your thirties?
More likely what's going on is that people assume everyone wants to be young and at their maximal hotness forever (assuming one ever attains hotness, I'm not convinced I have or ever will) so they say that you get to be 20 in heaven forever!!! What if you reach maximal good-looks in your thirties or forties? What if you die at age 60 and really like the way you look then, but you were a skinny little chicken-legged moron when you were in your 20s? God would force you to spend your eternity loathing your appearance?
Quote:Your memories of failure are gone
Failures are what you learn from in life. If you never remember your failures than, in heaven, you never learn. No thanks.
Quote:and it is impossible to be sad.
Then I fundamentally wouldn't be me anymore because lots of things make me sad.
Quote:The giftings you have naturally you get to fully use.
But you don't get to retain any talents you learned because doing so would mean you would remember your failures so....
Quote:You live in joy unspeakable and full of glory.
Isn't there that Christian argument that says that you can't truly understand happiness unless you know sadness? But in heaven you can't be sad so you can't ever know joy, either, then...
Quote:You never want to leave.
As soon as I get somewhere my first thought is usually "When can I leave?" so, yeah, I would want to leave.
Quote:You may as well get used to the idea- A lot of Heaven is coming here.
This statement doesn't even make sense.