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Muslim Atheism
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RE: Muslim Atheism
(July 29, 2014 at 11:44 pm)Rayaan Wrote: 1. There is no such thing as "Muslim atheism." The two words, by definition, are simply incompatible.

2. I am 100% sure there is no such principle in the Quran that tells you to accept all religions and all gods. It clearly tells you to believe in only one God, one religion.

Refer here: Some place where I've been testing my system

Differences between Muslim Atheim and Theism/Atheism

How Atheism hijacks religious concept of top achievements?

Refer here: Purpose of life and the test

. . .

Here is the summary of the system . . .
  • Say: He, Allah , the One (all. . . nothing else exists , only Oneness exists)
    Allah , the Absolute (no internal, no external. . no center, no space, no direction, no time . . .it is everything. Absolute)
    (112.1)

    It is You Oneness/Absolute/ALL we served
    and You Oneness/Absolute/ALL we ask for help.
    (1.5)


. . .
and the evidence of unity in diversity as purpose of our life . . .
  • Oneness

    So stand firm towards the justly balanced system of life (for unity)
    The system of life made by Allah (one nation, oneness)
    That on which He has created mankind (life is about unity in diversity. . one nation)
    There is no changing Allah´s system (look around us, it is self evident. . no exemption)

    [Image: 2u7r2v9.png]
    (they all know about unity in diversity, this is the system of Allah. . one nation)

    That is the true system of life (unity in diversity. . "mankind is one nation")
    But most among mankind do not understand

    Turn towards Him and be dutiful to Him
    Establish the divine system (of unity in diversity)

    And DO NOT become

    • (1) an idolater who ascribe authorities along with Him,

      (2) Or of those (Jews and Christians etc.)
      • who (recite the same Book but) have broken the unity
        and become religion (شِيَعًا)
        each group is happy with what it has
    30.30-32


. . .

Here is how I can accept all Gods and Religions


. . .

There shall be no argument in three main areas (freedom):
  • For that, you shall preach and be upright, as you have been commanded
    and DO NOT follow their wishes (for sectarianism, for religionism).

    And say:
    • "I believe IN ALL that God has sent down as a Book (ie. their belief and texts, it is different Texts but acknowledge them)
      and I was commanded to be with justice between you (unity within diversity)
      God is our Lord and your Lord (ie. their God, it is different God but acknowledge them)
      We have our deeds and you have your deeds (ie. their rituals, freedom of religion)
      There is no argument between us and you (unity within diversity)
      God will gather us all together, and to Him is the ultimate destiny."
      42.15

ie. people shall not dispute others in relation to:
  • 1. Faith and Scriptures;
    2. God;
    3. Rituals and Practices.

The system does not stop at freedom of religion, but taking a step further to bring an end to sectarianism through the Confirming Function of the Quran, ie. assimilation of life with people from various religious and non-religious backgrounds and to live as one community, to live as one huge family, no religion, no sectarianism. . .but only the elements of just or unjust.

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. . .

Here's why I should not involve with any religions, but with all religions. . .

Rationale
    • One cannot disbelieve in other Gods by creating new God
      One cannot disbelieve in other religions by creating new same religion
    It is merely repetition and meaningless.

    Therefore. . . rejecting Religion and God means:

    • I believe in ALL Gods, because I don't believe in God.
      I believe in ALL Religions, because I don't believe in Religion.
    Because we are living on Earth , and the majority of life on Earth is about God and Religion. That's life.


The prohibitions of practising sectarianism or belong to any sect
but to live as "one nation"
  • For you is your deen (sectarianism. . the traits of Theism and Atheism etc)
    and for me is my deen (unity and assimilating with all religions. . to live as "one nation" through justly balanced)
    (109.6)

    As for those who divide up their deen (دِينَهُمْ) and form into religion (شِيَعًا)
    you have nothing whatsoever to do with them
    6.159

    And whoever seeks a "dīnan" (دِينًا) other than Islam (unity in diversity, living as one nation)
    it will NEVER be accepted of him
    and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers
    3:85

    And if your Lord had wished
    He could have made all the people one nation ("my deen", One Nation, Muslim Atheism - 109.6)
    but they still would have continued to disagree. ("your deen", Atheism and Theism - 109.6)
    11:118

Thank you Losty

@others

and it is not a new religion or denomination. .
it is only my own system or philosophy and what I feels the right things to do
rather than following religious/non religious leaders telling me what is right for my life
telling what and what I should not do with my life. . .

I already got tired hearing them. . and I wish for "one nation", "one family". . .

(July 29, 2014 at 11:18 pm)bennyboy Wrote: So, basically, you are Bahai'i.

Baha'i believe in God. . I say God is impossible to exist
and the overall system are based on provable evidence, ie. "No Nonsense". . . .
There is no room for something not provable, or the unseen, myths and superstitions interpretations. . . (refer here)

(July 29, 2014 at 11:21 pm)GalacticBusDriver Wrote: Accepting any god(s) refutes the "atheism" part of "Muslim atheism." And seriously, what the fuck the the Quran have to do with any god(s) religion(s) outside of Islam?!?

The Quran is not about God and Religion. . but about "Oneness", "One Nation"

(July 29, 2014 at 11:48 pm)Zidneya Wrote: More like: "trying to forget" although after listening to was he said the last time, I can assure you that it ain't easy.

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#12
RE: Muslim Atheism
(July 30, 2014 at 5:17 am)Muslim Atheism Wrote: Here's why I should not involve with any religions, but with all religions. . .

Rationale
  • One cannot disbelieve in other Gods by creating new God
    One cannot disbelieve in other religions by creating new same religion
It is merely repetition and meaningless.

Therefore. . . rejecting Religion and God means:
  • I believe in ALL Gods, because I don't believe in God.
    I believe in ALL Religions, because I don't believe in Religion.

Yeah, and you should stop trolling already.

I find your comments way too vague and stupid to take you seriously.
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#13
RE: Muslim Atheism
I gave evidence from the Quran itself , the Constitution. . . how come it is trolling?

How about you prove it with direct evidence from the Constitution itself (Quran), rather than making blank claims ? No ?
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#14
RE: Muslim Atheism
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#15
RE: Muslim Atheism
Therefore, I have clearly proven my system
rejected by both Theism and Atheism (same manufacturer, same product, different labels)
it is therefore the right system. . . no sectarianism, one nation. Wink

(July 30, 2014 at 5:17 am)Muslim Atheism Wrote: The prohibitions of practising sectarianism or belong to any sect
but to live as "one nation"
  • For you is your deen (sectarianism. . the traits of Theism and Atheism etc)
    and for me is my deen (unity and assimilating with all religions. . to live as "one nation" through justly balanced)
    (109.6)

    As for those who divide up their deen (دِينَهُمْ) and form into religion (شِيَعًا)
    you have nothing whatsoever to do with them
    6.159

    And whoever seeks a "dīnan" (دِينًا) other than Islam (unity in diversity, living as one nation)
    it will NEVER be accepted of him
    and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers
    3:85

    And if your Lord had wished
    He could have made all the people one nation ("my deen", One Nation, Muslim Atheism - 109.6)
    but they still would have continued to disagree. ("your deen", Atheism and Theism - 109.6)
    11:118
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#16
RE: Muslim Atheism
(July 30, 2014 at 8:00 am)Muslim Atheism Wrote: Therefore, I have clearly proven my system

Clearly. ROFLOL
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#17
RE: Muslim Atheism
(July 30, 2014 at 8:00 am)Muslim Atheism Wrote: Therefore, I have clearly proven my system
rejected by both Theism and Atheism (same manufacturer, same product, different labels)
it is therefore the right system. . . no sectarianism, one nation. Wink

Then I guess you can fuck off somewhere else with that unearned sense of accomplishment, then. Angel
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#18
RE: Muslim Atheism
Ah, I see the daily shipment of word salad has arrived!
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In before fallacy.
In every country and every age, the priest had been hostile to Liberty.
- Thomas Jefferson
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#19
Rainbow 
RE: Muslim Atheism
See ? the Quran is right and the majority; both Theism and Atheism, cannot accept "no sectarianism". . . they are "sectarians" (with or without religion), same manufacturer, same product, different labels. . and they cannot accept "one nation". . . Wink

whereas. . . . everything is about unity in diversity, one nation. . . no exception.

(July 30, 2014 at 5:17 am)Muslim Atheism Wrote: That on which He has created mankind (life is about unity in diversity. . one nation)
There is no changing Allah´s system (look around us, it is self evident. . no exemption)

[Image: 2u7r2v9.png]
(they all know about unity in diversity, this is the system of Allah. . one nation)

That is the true system of life (unity in diversity. . "mankind is one nation")
But most among mankind do not understand

It is self evident. . .

[Image: 6_15cc05865f89c4801c5ff2a85d74a93c2.jpg]

Oneness. . unity in diversity, no collision between these planets and stars. . . they live as "one" (one nation)
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#20
RE: Muslim Atheism
(July 30, 2014 at 8:37 am)Muslim Atheism Wrote: See ? the Quran is right and the majority; both Theism and Atheism, cannot accept "no sectarianism". . . they are "sectarians" (with or without religions)

They cannot accept "one nation". . . Wink

whereas. . . . everything is about unity in diversity, one nation.

(July 30, 2014 at 5:17 am)Muslim Atheism Wrote: That on which He has created mankind (life is about unity in diversity. . one nation)
There is no changing Allah´s system (look around us, it is self evident. . no exemption)

[Image: 2u7r2v9.png]
(they all know about unity in diversity, this is the system of Allah. . one nation)

That is the true system of life (unity in diversity. . "mankind is one nation")
But most among mankind do not understand

It is self evident. . .

[Image: 6_15cc05865f89c4801c5ff2a85d74a93c2.jpg]

Oneness. . unity in diversity, no collision between these planets and stars. . . they live as "one" (one nation)

Oh boy..

I really hope you don't believe the solar system looks like that. And Pluto isn't a planet. And the 'unity' of our solar system is going to be destroyed when our sun gets too tired and expands.. not to mention the millions of other solar systems that are falling apart and dying right now.. and the stars that have/are exploding..

If you're going to use a metaphor for unity and balance..space ain't a good choice.
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- Thomas Jefferson
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