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You know what really grinds my gears?: The moaning thread.
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I've never been to a restaurant (they're aren't as many as in the west anyway. and I've never tipped (no one tips)
I've been to fast food places though In Libya, most days the women cook. Most people eat communally sitting on the floor (my nuclear family abandoned that though) 
Tipping is what keeps waiters earning minimum wages! Dumbasses!
If people are willing to tip you for 10% of the bill, then why not... here's a crazy idea... increase the prices by 10%, and pay the waiters 10% more? If no one tips, wages go up, or waiters can't afford their bills and quit to find some job that pays better. Anyway, that's why I never tip. I work to improve everyone, not just the one guy who happens to be serving me. 
Lemonvariable72
Copenhagen School  Religious Views: Its all bullshit to keep you handing money to the usher. (November 20, 2014 at 8:12 pm)pocaracas Wrote: Tipping is what keeps waiters earning minimum wages! Dumbasses!Most people in the waiting are either too stupid to find better paying work or college students that can't find anything else. You get the occasional older person doing for extra income.
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day, To the last syllable of recorded time; And all our yesterdays have lighted fools The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle! Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player, That struts and frets his hour upon the stage, And then is heard no more. It is a tale Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, Signifying nothing. 
Bad Wolf
Compulsive procrastinator Religious Views: Agnostic atheist, anti-theist, whovian, misanthrope? (November 20, 2014 at 6:34 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: That's because many states mandate a lower min wage for waitresses. In Canada minimum is min wage. Its still seen as rude here, but I really don't care. The kitchen staff in any resturaunt grinds their balls off and my job was especially unpleasant. Every dishwasher knows that if you can feel the cuts in your hands you havent been doing for more then a week. Well, the place I worked had this new radical invention called a 'dish washer' and also had a 'steamer' which meant the kitchen staff only had to load and empty it.
'The more I learn about people the more I like my dog'- Mark Twain
'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House “Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom "If my good friend Doctor Gasparri speaks badly of my mother, he can expect to get punched.....You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others. There is a limit." - Pope Francis on freedom of speech (November 20, 2014 at 8:41 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote:Same goes for supermarket cashiers. Does anyone tip them?(November 20, 2014 at 8:12 pm)pocaracas Wrote: Tipping is what keeps waiters earning minimum wages! Dumbasses!Most people in the waiting are either too stupid to find better paying work or college students that can't find anything else. You get the occasional older person doing for extra income.
Bad Wolf
Compulsive procrastinator Religious Views: Agnostic atheist, anti-theist, whovian, misanthrope? (November 21, 2014 at 4:35 am)pocaracas Wrote: Same goes for supermarket cashiers. Does anyone tip them? Servers do a lot more work than supermarket cashiers. As a server, you have to greet and farewell customers. Take orders. Run food. Bus tables. Take payments. Check up on existing tables. All this while looking happy and cheerful and dealing with the 'delightful' public. All for minimum wage of course, which in the UK, you cannot possibly live on, so unless your server is a student, they probably have a second job.
'The more I learn about people the more I like my dog'- Mark Twain
'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House “Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom "If my good friend Doctor Gasparri speaks badly of my mother, he can expect to get punched.....You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others. There is a limit." - Pope Francis on freedom of speech (November 21, 2014 at 4:42 am)Bad Wolf Wrote:(November 21, 2014 at 4:35 am)pocaracas Wrote: Same goes for supermarket cashiers. Does anyone tip them? If they do soooo much more, then why do they get paid the same? Doesn't seem fair, does it?
Bad Wolf
Compulsive procrastinator Religious Views: Agnostic atheist, anti-theist, whovian, misanthrope? (November 21, 2014 at 4:45 am)pocaracas Wrote: If they do soooo much more, then why do they get paid the same? That's because it isn't fair. I'm going to go ahead and guess that you haven't ever worked as a waiter have you?
'The more I learn about people the more I like my dog'- Mark Twain
'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House “Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom "If my good friend Doctor Gasparri speaks badly of my mother, he can expect to get punched.....You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others. There is a limit." - Pope Francis on freedom of speech
I've only seen waiters at pizza house (a ripoff).
What do cashiers do in the west?  (November 20, 2014 at 8:12 pm)pocaracas Wrote: If people are willing to tip you for 10% of the bill, then why not... here's a crazy idea... increase the prices by 10%, and pay the waiters 10% more?Inertia. The restaurant that raises prices by 10% to pay better wages will go out of business unless its competitors follow its example (and they probably won't be inclined to follow its example). It's a cultural thing here, which is the same reason we are not expected to tip a cashier. It's also unlikely to change because waiting tables isn't a career; for most people it's a way to make some money until something better comes along. I don't think there's a particularly strong lobby to push for changes because of that. I tip generously because I can remember working low-wage jobs just to get by and since I live in NYC I figure most waiters get far more shit than they deserve, so it's probably nice to get a generous tip now and then. I won't tip well if the service was awful, but as long as it's decent they'll get 20% or more. I recall the time I tipped a young guy almost 100% because I had to admire the enthusiasm he was bringing to the job. I can still see the look on his face when he realized he was getting a $40 tip for a $43 meal; I think he almost passed out.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
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