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RE: Be honest, am I going to hell for "my" atheism?
April 12, 2015 at 11:26 am
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RE: Be honest, am I going to hell for "my" atheism?
April 12, 2015 at 12:31 pm
If you have a low level of belief, let's see...
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RE: Be honest, am I going to hell for "my" atheism?
April 12, 2015 at 12:58 pm
(April 12, 2015 at 12:31 pm)robvalue Wrote: If you have a low level of belief, let's see...
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What if your level of belief is over 9000?
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RE: Be honest, am I going to hell for "my" atheism?
April 12, 2015 at 1:40 pm
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(April 12, 2015 at 2:04 am)Zen Badger Wrote: (April 11, 2015 at 8:45 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: It really depends on how you define omni.
Really?
Then how do YOU define "Omni"?
I would define it as the attribute in it's utmost possibility and in it's place.
For example, Omniscient, I wouldn't say god knows how to create other gods because he knows everything, I think he knows it's impossible to create other gods, likewise, i don't believe it's possible to ALL the future if we were to allow free-will. Therefore this refers to him knowing all things possible to be known.
Likewise, Omnipotent, I would define as being able to do all things logically possible. To define it as doing things all logically possible or not logically possible is not a definition I would hold and believe in it.
Likewise, he is utmost merciful, absolute in it, but in it's proper place, he is the most merciful, and in the place of justice, is the most just, and in the place of wrath the most severest in it.
Likewise, God is benevolent, but his benevolence has a place, a way, a path.
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RE: Be honest, am I going to hell for "my" atheism?
April 12, 2015 at 1:57 pm
(April 12, 2015 at 1:40 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: I would define it as the attribute in it's utmost possibility and in it's place.
For example, Omniscient, I wouldn't say gods knows how to create other gods because he knows everything, I think he knows it's impossible to create other gods, likewise, i don't believe it's possible to ALL the future if we were to allow free-will. Therefore this refers to him knowing all things possible to be known.
Likewise, Omnipotent, I would define as being able to do all things logically possible. To define it as doing things all logically possible or not logically possible is not a definition I would hold and believe in it.
Likewise, he is utmost merciful, absolute in it, but in it's proper place, he is the most merciful, and in the place of justice, is the most just, and in the place of wrath the most severest in it.
Likewise, God is benevolent, but his benevolence has a place, a way, a path.
Which is a nicely self serving definition, since you're also expanding what is logically possible and hoping we don't notice. It is not, for example, logically possible to create a universe, and yet god does that, so your idea of what's logically possible is quite radically different from what humans understand to begin with. This definition of yours is retrofitting, plain and simple: whatever god is described as doing is logically possible regardless of whether it appears so from our perspective, and whatever god has not done that it would have been smarter to have done is logically impossible because... you said so, apparently?
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RE: Be honest, am I going to hell for "my" atheism?
April 12, 2015 at 2:43 pm
(April 12, 2015 at 1:40 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: (April 12, 2015 at 2:04 am)Zen Badger Wrote: Really?
Then how do YOU define "Omni"?
I would define it as the attribute in it's utmost possibility and in it's place.
For example, Omniscient, I wouldn't say god knows how to create other gods because he knows everything, I think he knows it's impossible to create other gods, likewise, i don't believe it's possible to ALL the future if we were to allow free-will. Therefore this refers to him knowing all things possible to be known.
Likewise, Omnipotent, I would define as being able to do all things logically possible. To define it as doing things all logically possible or not logically possible is not a definition I would hold and believe in it.
Likewise, he is utmost merciful, absolute in it, but in it's proper place, he is the most merciful, and in the place of justice, is the most just, and in the place of wrath the most severest in it.
Likewise, God is benevolent, but his benevolence has a place, a way, a path.
Ill like call bullshit 500$
god isn't benevolent he is malevolent.
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RE: Be honest, am I going to hell for "my" atheism?
April 12, 2015 at 5:32 pm
(April 12, 2015 at 12:58 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: (April 12, 2015 at 12:31 pm)robvalue Wrote: If you have a low level of belief, let's see...
You get in, but you have to sit right at the back next to the radiator.
What if your level of belief is over 9000?
Over 9000? Let me look that up...
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