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Why the stigma with Pantheism?

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Why the stigma with Pantheism?
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RE: Why the stigma with Pantheism?
August 24, 2014 at 10:57 pm
(August 24, 2014 at 10:45 pm)rasetsu Wrote: I could see panentheism before pantheism. The universe is God — what does that even mean?

It means there is something so big that we will never know it completely, its to be humble towards it all, its a mystery that our puny minds will never know of.
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RE: Why the stigma with Pantheism?
August 25, 2014 at 12:42 am
(August 24, 2014 at 10:53 pm)bennyboy Wrote: Saying the universe is God doesn't achieve anything but a semantic conflation. It does not have any useful implications, unless you define either the universe or God in a way to merit the use of both terms.
To me the g-word is a metaphor for the consciousness of the big picture. It's important to be conscious of the big picture. It's a valuable point of reference. I recognize mass psychology as the behavior of one character. The big picture also reveals that we are intuitively turning the planet into a cyborg at a rapid pace. And the galaxy is next. The only question is sustainability. That's where morality comes in.
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RE: Why the stigma with Pantheism?
August 25, 2014 at 12:45 am (This post was last modified: August 25, 2014 at 12:46 am by The Grand Nudger.)
Quote:"A star died, so you can exist" is not disputable.
Yeah, it is, but one thing it's not - is pantheism. You're going to need better "scientific logic" round these parts.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Why the stigma with Pantheism?
August 25, 2014 at 12:51 am (This post was last modified: August 25, 2014 at 2:11 am by Losty.)
"The Source"
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Source_(Charmed)


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RE: Why the stigma with Pantheism?
August 25, 2014 at 12:57 am
(August 25, 2014 at 12:45 am)Rhythm Wrote:
Quote:"A star died, so you can exist" is not disputable.
Yeah, it is, but one thing it's not - is pantheism. You're going to need better "scientific logic" round these parts.
What about what is disputable? Don't we share common DNA with a blade of grass? Is there any evidence to the contrary about anything I said? I mean this sincerely.
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RE: Why the stigma with Pantheism?
August 25, 2014 at 12:58 am
(August 25, 2014 at 12:51 am)Losty Wrote: "The Source"
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Source_(Charmed)



No not the source, but the Source.
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RE: Why the stigma with Pantheism?
August 25, 2014 at 1:11 am
(August 25, 2014 at 12:58 am)psychoslice Wrote: No not the source, but the Source.
I fucking called it! The Source listens to rap.
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RE: Why the stigma with Pantheism?
August 25, 2014 at 1:14 am
(August 25, 2014 at 12:57 am)stonedape Wrote: What about what is disputable? Don't we share common DNA with a blade of grass? Is there any evidence to the contrary about anything I said? I mean this sincerely.
Mostly your wording. No star died -so- I could exist.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Why the stigma with Pantheism?
August 25, 2014 at 1:18 am
(August 25, 2014 at 1:14 am)Rhythm Wrote: Mostly your wording. No star died -so- I could exist.
How is that relevant?
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RE: Why the stigma with Pantheism?
August 25, 2014 at 1:18 am (This post was last modified: August 25, 2014 at 1:20 am by Anomalocaris.)
(August 25, 2014 at 12:57 am)stonedape Wrote:
(August 25, 2014 at 12:45 am)Rhythm Wrote: Yeah, it is, but one thing it's not - is pantheism. You're going to need better "scientific logic" round these parts.
What about what is disputable? Don't we share common DNA with a blade of grass? Is there any evidence to the contrary about anything I said? I mean this sincerely.


The problem lies with the word "so". A star died because it died. Not so that you can live. You live because condition existed for you to live. Not because a star sacrificed itself to make the condition exist.

"So" implies intent and purpose. This is where theism creeps into pantheism and prys it away from a rigorous view of reality and into something ultimately no better than another wish thinking theism.
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