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The "gay recruitment" myth
August 28, 2014 at 12:27 am
This is a video that is mostly full of absolute shitheads.
Ask yourself: are you born to be a shithead? Is that a choice you consciously make? Were you groomed to be a shithead? Several? All? None?
Who cares?
You're still a shithead. And you're a shithead in this particular instance because a very popular religion goes out of its way to tell you that you should be.
I wonder how many times anything even remotely close to this has ever happened as the result of a son announcing, to his two moms or dads, that he has accepted Jesus as his Lord and savior?
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RE: The "gay recruitment" myth
August 28, 2014 at 2:02 am
I don't even want to watch it.
"There remain four irreducible objections to religious faith: that it wholly misrepresents the origins of man and the cosmos, that because of this original error it manages to combine the maximum servility with the maximum of solipsism, that it is both the result and the cause of dangerous sexual repression, and that it is ultimately grounded on wish-thinking." ~Christopher Hitchens, god is not Great
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RE: The "gay recruitment" myth
August 28, 2014 at 2:09 am
That made me so sad. That poor kid... I just don't...
I've forgotten how awful religion really can be, and the extent people will go to honor it. As much as I've had beef with my parents over the years, I can't imagine my sexual orientation causing them to actually disown me because of an ancient text and a bunch of woo. They are (or were, in my dad's case) pretty religious- my dad left millions to his tiny church in TN when he died- but I don't think either would ever go to such an extent.
Where's the humanity? Where's the love? And how do parents not see that their kids are actually, truly, hurting deep down because they really can't change, despite their family telling them they have to? All because of said woo? How can these people worship a deity who would have them renounce their own child?
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RE: The "gay recruitment" myth
August 28, 2014 at 2:57 am
Quote: Where's the humanity? Where's the love? And how do parents not see that their kids are actually, truly, hurting deep down because they really can't change, despite their family telling them they have to? All because of said woo? How can these people worship a deity who would have them renounce their own child?
When one's indoctrinated since childhood to fear an invisible man in the sky who controls what happens in the afterlife, I guess they're so afraid of dying in disgrace that personal bonds become worthless before god.
The awful thing is that the christian religion itself views such examples as positive, see Abraham for instance.
"Every luxury has a deep price. Every indulgence, a cosmic cost. Each fiber of pleasure you experience causes equivalent pain somewhere else. This is the first law of emodynamics [sic]. Joy can be neither created nor destroyed. The balance of happiness is constant.
Fact: Every time you eat a bite of cake, someone gets horsewhipped.
Facter: Every time two people kiss, an orphanage collapses.
Factest: Every time a baby is born, an innocent animal is severely mocked for its physical appearance. Don't be a pleasure hog. Your every smile is a dagger. Happiness is murder.
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RE: The "gay recruitment" myth
August 28, 2014 at 6:11 am
(August 28, 2014 at 2:09 am)rexbeccarox Wrote: I've forgotten how awful religion really can be, and the extent people will go to honor it. As much as I've had beef with my parents over the years, I can't imagine my sexual orientation causing them to actually disown me because of an ancient text and a bunch of woo.
I know lots of parents who would, mine included. They aren't bad people per se, they simply hold such a specific-yet-shallow view about certain subjects that they aren't prepared to deal with a situation like that. And that is indeed what is so harmful about religion-- some people will take actions that will pain them terribly, for the sake of staying true to their religious beliefs. What could make a parent reject his/her own child outright?
The sincere belief that it's what god wants.
Think about how terrible that is.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
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RE: The "gay recruitment" myth
August 28, 2014 at 6:21 am
It's a truly horrible thought, tonus.
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RE: The "gay recruitment" myth
August 28, 2014 at 6:42 am
Sounds fairly typical, which is sad.
