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Only man is fit to be God.
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RE: Only man is fit to be God.
(August 31, 2014 at 12:54 pm)Natachan Wrote:
(August 31, 2014 at 12:46 pm)Greatest I am Wrote: You set up a being to whom you are forever in subservience.

I said no such thing and in fact said elect as in a democracy and there is nothing forever about that leader.

You missed my point though. Without those leaders, you have anarchy and chaos.

You also missed where we are to seek the ideal leader perpetually.

Perhaps it is my poor delivery.

Regards
DL

Can you depose God for bad behavior? Are you equal? Or is God one who demands subservience? At all?

If you believe either of these things then you are a far cry from what I understand as Christianity.

I am a Gnostic Christian, not a Christian. Christians decimated my kind of Christian when Constantine bought the church they called the Orthodox Church. Their genocidal son murdering God id not the Godhead I know. They are idol worshipers and we are perpetual seekers. We are morally superior as we do not deny women and gays equality while Christianity does.

"Can you depose God for bad behavior?"

If it is the bible God in question, I have a bullet with his name on it. Hey that might be why he is staying absentee.
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"Are you equal?"

To bible God? Hell no. I am nowhere near as immoral as that genocidal son murderer.

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"Or is God one who demands subservience?"

What does a God need us on our knees for unless it is for this?

http://i.imgur.com/U1UO0AW.jpg

Regards
DL

(August 31, 2014 at 1:52 pm)paulpablo Wrote:
(August 29, 2014 at 11:57 am)Greatest I am Wrote: Only man is fit to be God.

There is no higher form of intelligent life as far as we can tell with any confidence.

Man has already proven that he can produce better laws than any of the Gods so to want to have man led by a God with less moral values would be like us electing Satan.

We are a part of the animal kingdom. In this kingdom, all animals look to their own kind for guidance and the best rules for them to live their lives by. These they learn from instincts. Man seeks the same best rules to live life by and not only uses his instincts and feelings, he also uses his intellect and reason.

Religions would have us emulate some absentee Gods while knowing that they are less moral and intelligent in their laws than man. That is why religions tend to not try to have holy laws put into our societies. They are way too draconian.

If all other animals emulate their fittest as God, in the sense of the best rules for life, then why do some humans want to follow what can only be called an alien God?

Humans should rule over humans. No alien God should ever be let to rule over us even if one did show up.

Do you agree and if not, why not?

Regards
DL

Humans do rule over humans.
Yes humans should rule over humans because the next best alternative I can think of is men letting dolphins or elephants take control, and although they are intelligent as far as animals go I don't think they could organize a good health service or plan the layout of cities.
I don't know who this alien god is so I can't say for sure if he would rule better than humans have done so far.
They want to follow a divine god because they believe this god has power over what happens after they die.

True. Fear of the afterlife is what keeps the money flowing into church coffers. Fear and guilt is what churches try to create as much as possible.

This link shows that not all churches lie all the time, --- even as I think they all lie most of the time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SF6I5VSZVqc

Regards
DL

(August 31, 2014 at 4:45 pm)KUSA Wrote:
(August 31, 2014 at 10:59 am)Drich Wrote: I think you need to continue until you find some NT example.

Quote:REVELATION 6:8

And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.

God is a nasty sob even in the new testament.

For teaching just how to beat slaves or did you have something else in mind?

Regards
DL
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