Why was Adam exempt from the transgression when the transgression was disobedience?

[Hellfire1014]

She ate, and noted she did not die.

But she was right, Drippy. She did not die which makes your god a fucking liar.

I don't feel like wading through the mud, but I wanted to address this. She did in fact die. Where is she today?

[The Valkyrie]

Why was Adam exempt from the transgression when the transgression was disobedience?

"Let the women learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression." (I Timothy 2:11-14)

I think that Adam, not being deceived, was more culpable than Eve.

Why then did God favor the guiltiest, Adam, with, --- he shall rule over you?

Men rule over women? Why when men were not deceived but disobeyed?

What was the transgression, --- if not a wise decision to choose knowledge and wisdom and shun immortality of the flesh, --- even if that were possible, --- and why was Adan not punished as hard as Eve when he was clearly more guilty?

Regards
DL

Because the bible and religion are created by men for the benefit of men.

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But she was right, Drippy. She did not die which makes your god a fucking liar.

I don't feel like wading through the mud, but I wanted to address this. She did in fact die. Where is she today?

Still fictional, as she's always been.

[The Grand Nudger]

They were destined for eternal death in hell rather than eternal life with God. The bible often speaks of spiritual death. Romans 6:11-13 NIV:

No, they weren't, because the authors had no such concept. They weren't christians, understand? Notice you had to trot out the NT? So, when you ask, "why would the writer"- anything...try and remember who those authors were. What they were destined for, btw, was listed directly and as the capstone to the story - which segued nicely into the next vignette in the collection. Full stop.

[Greatest I am]

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Why would the writer of Genesis say that they died a spiritual death and go on to tell about their lives after leaving the garden of eden?

There is no way to answer for one who believes in real talking serpents. Those people are not quite sane.

Regards
DL

[Cyberman]

I don't feel like wading through the mud, but I wanted to address this. She did in fact die. Where is she today?

"This guy at work mocked Jesus. Thirty years later - BAM! Herpes."

Biblical curses, like biblical superheroes, take a while to bake.

[The Grand Nudger]

He used to have much faster service. It's just not as easy to get an archangel to do any smiting as it used to be. The quality of their work has deteriorated and they won't get off their asses for anything even remotely within the big mans budget. That's why we have toast pictures instead of pillars of fire destroying cities. Can you imagine the logistics behind something like that? The churches are declining and what membership fees they still collect don't seem to make it much passed the cardinals 4th yacht - things are tight all around.

[orangebox21]

You do not seem to recognize that almost all things and concepts are subject to good and evil and that that is why many theorize that the tree of knowledge is the tree of knowledge of almost everything.

1. Almost all things are subject to good
2. Almost all things are subject to evil
3. Almost all concepts are subject to good
4. Almost all concepts are subject to evil
Therefore, the tree of knowledge is the tree of knowledge of almost everything.

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Try to name three exceptions to this [that almost all things and concepts are subject to good and evil] and you will be enlightened.

1. A rock
2. A water molecule
3. The number 2

God's command of do not gain knowledge cannot be argued to be a good command. It was thus an evil command and Eve was justified in ignoring. it.

Is:

16 And the Lord God commanded the man, “You are free to eat from any tree in the garden; 17 but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat from it you will certainly die.”

the same statement as

"And the Lord God commanded the man you are not to gain knowledge."

You, as did the serpent, misrepresent the words of God.

It was thus an evil command and Eve was justified in ignoring it.

Now I understand where you are coming from.

[Greatest I am]

1. A rock
2. A water molecule
3. The number 2

A friend was rock bolting a room when one rock that he poked just ahead of himself broke loose and buried the room he was bolting.

He thought that that rock was quite good for having dropped just ahead of him instead of on him.

A water molecule that becomes the carrier of the Ebola virus, to name one of many, is not what we would call a good water molecule.

The number 2 as an answer to what is 5 - 4 is hardly good.

Now tell us again just what else is not in that tree of the knowledge of almost everything.

If you wish to give it some actual thought this time, try again.

Regards
DL

[Thumpalumpacus]

Indeed.

But what is the first duty of one who has seized it, if mot to insure that all enjoy the same freedom of thought and action?

When a monk takes a vow of silence, should I force him to speak, so that he may use the freedom of speech?

Since you didn't answer my question, I will ask it again: if a woman voluntarily accepts a subservient position based on her religious faith, what should I do to fix that problem?

For evil to grow etc. , my friend.

Regards
DL

The unquestioned assumption in your repetition of this adage is that because I am not doing as you prescribe, I am doing nothing. That is clearly not the case, as a closer rereading of the very post you quoted will show.

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1. A rock
2. A water molecule
3. The number 2

A friend was rock bolting a room when one rock that he poked just ahead of himself broke loose and buried the room he was bolting.

He thought that that rock was quite good for having dropped just ahead of him instead of on him.

A water molecule that becomes the carrier of the Ebola virus, to name one of many, is not what we would call a good water molecule.

The number 2 as an answer to what is 5 - 4 is hardly good.

Now tell us again just what else is not in that tree of the knowledge of almost everything.

If you wish to give it some actual thought this time, try again.

Regards
DL

Don't look now, but you're mounting an argument supporting moral relativity.

[Greatest I am]

Second request.

But what is the first duty of one who has seized it, if mot to insure that all enjoy the same freedom of thought and action?

Or do you just center on yourself and screw the rest?

Regards
DL