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RE: Mods.. please cry like a baby here
September 12, 2014 at 8:06 am
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(September 12, 2014 at 6:46 am)fr0d0 Wrote: Apologies Nap
New members not knowing the forum stance on anyone making generalisations about atheism that don't happen to match the collective consensus here.
The suggestion is that it should be stated in the sign up process more clearly.
You know, when you walk into a room of strangers expecting conversation, it's just common courtesy to say hello and introduce yourself. If someone can't figure that out on their own that's kind of sad.
Also, I'm really glad you made this thread. Now I will actually make sense when I point people to the crybaby thread. 
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RE: Mods.. please cry like a baby here
September 12, 2014 at 8:17 am
Now look here you little hobbit!
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*doesn't find it*
*pouts*
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RE: Mods.. please cry like a baby here
September 12, 2014 at 8:17 am
Losty Wrote:You know, when you walk into a room of strangers expecting conversation, it's just common courtesy to say hello and introduce yourself. If someone can't figure that out on there own that's kind of sad.
Exactly. It most of society it is considered rude to just jump in and start talking, especially with generalisations thrown in.
I've always introduced myself on forums. Even if there isn't an introduction section, I just start a thread in the subforum I'm interested in spending most of my time. Some forums are really big and you almost need to introduce yourself to the people you're likely to interact with. Get to know them/let them get to know you before you start creating heavy threads.
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RE: Mods.. please cry like a baby here
September 12, 2014 at 8:42 am
The problem is that new people aren't yet indoctrinated into forum etiquette. No one is to know the narrow definitions that we insist upon here.
Rather than the monotonous cycle of: "atheism is no belief in a god so let me tell you what you believe without bothering to find anything out about you" ... We could simply state that up front. Save ourselves on tissues.
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RE: Mods.. please cry like a baby here
September 12, 2014 at 9:00 am
I'm guilty of barging in without introduction.  I posted a long thread on what I had been thinking about for a few days and was met with  hahaha
The last time I was on a forum was in the late 90's and since then social media has transformed into a sea of anonymity where people have been conditioned to need to make a splash in order to get noticed. If it doesn't work you just get ignored. So I kind of feel where sswhateverlove is coming from and I can see a need for an emphasis for introductions on the sign up page.
I can't remember where this verse is from, I think it got removed from canon:
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For context, this is the previous verse:
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RE: Mods.. please cry like a baby here
September 12, 2014 at 9:08 am
(September 12, 2014 at 6:46 am)fr0d0 Wrote: (September 12, 2014 at 6:37 am)Napoléon Wrote: I think I've missed it, what am I supposedly whining about?
Apologies Nap
New members not knowing the forum stance on anyone making generalisations about atheism that don't happen to match the collective consensus here.
The suggestion is that it should be stated in the sign up process more clearly.
No, in our malevolence we relish the opportunity to spring the trap, lure them in and ambush presumptuous theists.
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RE: Mods.. please cry like a baby here
September 12, 2014 at 9:11 am
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(September 12, 2014 at 8:42 am)fr0d0 Wrote: The problem is that new people aren't yet indoctrinated into forum etiquette. No one is to know the narrow definitions that we insist upon here.
Rather than the monotonous cycle of: "atheism is no belief in a god so let me tell you what you believe without bothering to find anything out about you" ... We could simply state that up front. Save ourselves on tissues.
I'm not speaking really on netiquette. When do you NOT introduce yourself?
Even on the internet. Sending a message to someone you just added on facebook? You at least say, 'Hi I'm so and so. We have a mutual friend X.' I rarely add people as friends on social media that if I don't already know them. If I we have a mutual friend and that mutual friend recommends them, then I send a quick message and ask if it's okay to friend them.
If you're sending an email to someone for the first time, then you introduce yourself.
If you meet someone in person for the first time, you introduce yourself.
Surely you would know that even if you have never been on a forum in your life.
With that said, I've noticed patterns that when people have social issues such as Autism or Aspergers, that introductions are often overlooked. My cousin's son has Aspergers and he's 18 now and she still has to remind him to introduce himself. Otherwise he'll just start talking about World War 2 airplanes and the Japanese military or whatever fascination he's on at the moment. He's incredibly intelligent and he graduated high school near the top of his class but he still lacks the sensitivity to social complexities. Even the simple ones as it's polite to introduce yourself. I used to work in a mental hospital and I've learned a lot about various disorders and I can usually spot them a mile away. Even online. My last forum was rampant with various levels of diagnoses in the Autism-Spectrum category.
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RE: Mods.. please cry like a baby here
September 12, 2014 at 9:12 am
(September 12, 2014 at 8:42 am)fr0d0 Wrote: The problem is that new people aren't yet indoctrinated into forum etiquette. No one is to know the narrow definitions that we insist upon here.
Rather than the monotonous cycle of: "atheism is no belief in a god so let me tell you what you believe without bothering to find anything out about you" ... We could simply state that up front. Save ourselves on tissues.
It must be another miracle of Christianity that so many Christian are undoctrinated into the etiquette of "when in someone else's house for the first time, learn where the bathroom is and don't piss on the floor"
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RE: Mods.. please cry like a baby here
September 12, 2014 at 9:19 am
Perhaps we need a site rename to "atheist social club".
Atheists would probably interpret that as "get out your club and start bashing theists" though. You know what Neanderthals they are.
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RE: Mods.. please cry like a baby here
September 12, 2014 at 9:23 am
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(September 12, 2014 at 9:19 am)fr0d0 Wrote: Perhaps we need a site rename to "atheist social club".
Atheists would probably interpret that as "get out your club and start bashing theists" though. You know what Neanderthals they are.
What we do in the privacy of our own kinky club is none of your business.
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